I....don’t think the assholes floating this as actual social policy suggestion realize how DANGEROUS THIS IS?!?https://twitter.com/chick_in_kiev/status/991700906940030976 …
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Redistribution from supposedly intelligent and reasonable columnists is a VALIDATION of ideas fundamental to incel politics: the idea they’re ENTITLED to claim ownership over women’s bodies.
The fact when I suggested to Robin Hanson that a redistribution politic is an offering of women’s bodies and he didn’t understand/agree honestly indicates a shared political baseline between incels and agents of patriarchy writ large: that women’s bodies are capital.
Incel politics are like upper level patriarchy with a fetish for sadistic violence against the scores of imaginary women that “deny” them and contempt for the men “better” than them.
Unlike the economic redistribution politics these ideas are based on, these sex redistribution ideas are not rooted in any actual semblance of equality/equity.https://twitter.com/ztsamudzi/status/990327183007596544?s=21 …
Here, once again, we get to witness the danger of the centrist/liberal idea that every issue has two sides worth debating: we’ve got WHITE MEN who’ve absolutely nothing to lose here glibly entertaining violent ideas by disguising them within “rational”-sounding economic theory.
Frankly, incels are by far scarier to me than ”extreme” white nationalists because at least there’s some kind of general consensus condemning, even if superficially, the optics of their politics. That does not seem to be the case with incels & their patriarchy.
Instead of indicting systems that create violent male entitlement beyond their subculture, you’ve got talking heads offering women AS TRIBUTE so they’ll stop. I am exhausted.
Shoutout to the @nytimes for platforming Ross Douthat’s more reasonable version of incels’ incitements to (and desires to legalize!) rape.
Oh yeah, did you know that incels want to make rape legal and actively advocate for violent harm against women and that's why they were banned from Reddit? Those are the people Ross Douthat and Robin Hanson are suggesting we make women more available to.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/technology/incels-reddit-banned.html …
It’s utterly non-sensical. “Women” are not a monolith working as a whole to exclude certain guys from dating. To the extent it seems like that, it’s because these guys are not considerate and engaging, they loath the “friend zone,” and thus don’t get to know any women.
Wait, are manipulation, seduction, and (economic/sexual) "objectification" fine now?
It’s not manipulative to say ‘actually I don’t want to fuck you’
I'm referring to Zoe's statement, which specifically mentions manipulation. Of course she has me blocked now -- which greatly speaks for her consistency. And you didn't reply regarding the acceptable standards for (not) "fucking" at all.
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