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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @notjessewalker @deaneckles

      Pretty sure making things worse in almost all instances by overwhelming the resource-constrained counter-institutions with speed & spread, combined with Facebook’s utter reckless & under-staffed approach. There could be alternative universes where things aren’t set up like this.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @notjessewalker @deaneckles

      (Counter-institutions when they exist. Facebook tests for low bandwidth users when the real question is the impact of its rapid diffusion in low-institution settings. )

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    3. Jesse Walker‏ @notjessewalker 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @deaneckles

      What sort of counter-institutions do you have in mind? And, related: Have you seen any good reporting or academic work on how the victims of communal violence use Facebook?

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @notjessewalker @deaneckles

      Governments, media, the despairing Sri Lankan officials in that NYT piece... It is exactly what I’ve seen happen in country after country. Facebook ignores desperate pleas to establish emergency lines, hire people. Been years. Same global story. Victim groups: yes I track.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @notjessewalker @deaneckles

      They try to warn one another, cry, also use to organize fleeing the lynch mob coming for them. The harm is so evident and overwhelming. I’d welcome more studies of all kinds but this really is one of those in-your-face situations. Chronic FB understaffing and lack of care.

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    6. Jesse Walker‏ @notjessewalker 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @deaneckles

      Thanks. Have you written this up anywhere? I'd like to know more about the organized fleeing and how that compares to life during pre-Facebook assaults.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @notjessewalker @deaneckles

      I have not. Both overwhelmed and also to the degree I follow, it’s really escape organization. Not the kind of thing to expose. This stuff would be any sane company’s number one priority. Every year has gotten drastically worse.

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    8. Jesse Walker‏ @notjessewalker 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @deaneckles

      Do you mean it's getting worse globally? The violence in some places (Myanmar, Mexico) would be getting worse even without Facebook. Do you think there's a cross-cultural surge in communal violence that can be traced to specific technologies?

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @notjessewalker @deaneckles

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      Yes. Complex multicausal stuff for sure but I’m pretty sure it won’t be in much doubt as history is written. Also which sane company picks Sri Lanka to do a fait accompli informational experiment on? Dart board picks by size/continent or something?https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/922838411429466112 …

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      Who picked the six countries Facebook would experiment on? Recentish: Two genocides, one ethnic cleansing, one civil war. Never mind WWI.😬 pic.twitter.com/bDcsnbjJis
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    10. Jesse Walker‏ @notjessewalker 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @deaneckles

      *Is* there a cross-cultural surge in communal violence right now? A general rise that can be disentangled from local factors?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
      Replying to @notjessewalker @deaneckles

      Yes. Obviously. Look at refugee and displacement statistics which are direct proxies. Highest since WWII. People are fleeing. Also even without displacement. India, up about 40 percent recently. Subcontinent, SE Asia...

      10:44 AM - 21 Apr 2018
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @notjessewalker @deaneckles

          I’m all for skepticism but at this point I’m willing to bet folding money there will be an obvious story in history. We won’t get the perfect counterfactual experiment because we never do, but the emergent story is loud and not a weak signal.

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        2. Jesse Walker‏ @notjessewalker 21 Apr 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @deaneckles

          How much of that record high is the Syria war?

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2018
          Replying to @notjessewalker @deaneckles

          Syria and Myanmar are the two huge ones. By the way, WhatsApp is very common as a refugee escape coordination among Syrian refugees.

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