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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2018

      Many people asked me what lawmakers should ask Mark Zuckerberg. Here's my answer: Nothing. Instead, they should get to work and pass legislation to fix the reckless surveillance in the digital economy. In my latest NYT oped, I suggest four concrete steps: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/opinion/zuckerberg-testify-congress.html …pic.twitter.com/qdSYyZl2O1

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2018

      Right now, data about us is collected recklessly without reasonable limits, aggregated without controls, bought and sold, occasionally breached, harvested, siphoned and leaked—and used without oversight. Maybe data is the new oil, but like oil, it can pollute, spill and poison.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2018

      Now, I wouldn't mind more details on everything but I'm an academic & a curious person. But I don't see what there is for Zuckerberg to answer that will substantively clarify anything. Was it 50 million or 87 or a more than billion? (likely latter, by the way but who's counting?)

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2018

      Also, my piece is about Facebook but the data collection/retention/use oversight would help the whole digital economy. Also, in reality, one risk is that regulation *entrenches* the power of the existing giants. Have to address that, too, through interoperability and antitrust.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted WidenerCWBusinessLaw

      I do, I do. I don't see why we, as a society, cannot decide that this much data retention and hidden-to-us targeting as a business model is not acceptable. There is an alternative digital economy out there if we legislate and invest in it.https://twitter.com/WidenerCWBizLaw/status/983667082628911104 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      WidenerCWBusinessLaw @WidenerCWBizLaw
      Legislating Facebook - @zeynep has some suggestions via @NYTimes https://nyti.ms/2uXaOb6 
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

      That said, earlier I gave some suggestions to @alexismadrigal for his piece on what Congress should ask. I think the computational inference part of our digital economy is least understood—and pretty potent stuff.pic.twitter.com/dXaczAOqJV

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

      I'm collating some of my latest writings for my newsletter (going out shortly); I'm include a link to the longer, rough-cut draft of the above op-ed. (Partly because I get such requests sometimes—to show the 😬😱😬😱writing process.) (Link to newsletter: https://tinyletter.com/zeynepnotes )

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Alvaro Bedoya

      Now, asking for these kinds of pledges would be interesting... Good thread, too.https://twitter.com/alvarombedoya/status/983683244515315712 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Alvaro Bedoya @alvarombedoya
      11/ Senators should ask Zuckerberg, point blank: Will you pledge, right here and now, that Facebook will not lobby — or pay others to lobby — to block or water down privacy laws in Congress or in the states? I suspect he can't make that pledge, and people need to hear that.
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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jonathan Albright

      Oookay, this is a twist. Apps like that of Cambridge Analytica at some point had access to private messages on Facebook? I didn't know this. When and how many? If so, everyone's messages must have been harvested. CA was just one app among thousands & more.https://twitter.com/d1gi/status/983692469106704384 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jonathan AlbrightVerified account @d1gi
      Replying to @carolecadwalla
      Have to admit, I didn't expect private DMs/messages to show up in people's CA notifications today. 📩obtainable via deprecated API permissions, though. Might explain why FB late getting these out? https://medium.com/tow-center/the-graph-api-key-points-in-the-facebook-and-cambridge-analytica-debacle-b69fe692d747 … pic.twitter.com/trWbDnEOWs
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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

      Weeeeelllll. I ordinarily prefer reading transcripts. I have a feeling that any "media" moments will be on loop. 😬

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

      Zuckerberg, just now: "There will always be a *version* of Facebook that's free." That's a huge shift if it is not a slip of the tongue. I doubt it. That was an obvious question he'd be prepared for. I think Facebook is pondering a shift to non-ad model, at least as an option.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          Btw this is my @Wired article about the 14-year apology tour that Sen. Thune just referenced. My key point is that all this isn't about Zuckerberg personally; these downsides are intrinsic to the business model.https://www.wired.com/story/why-zuckerberg-15-year-apology-tour-hasnt-fixed-facebook/ …

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          This one gets me the maddest. Facebook had no excuse being so negligent about Myanmar. Here's me tweeting about it IN 2013. PEOPLE HAVE BEGGED FACEBOOK FOR YEARS TO BE PRO-ACTIVE IN BURMA/MYANMAR. Now he's hiring "dozens". This is a historic wrong. 😡🤬🤬https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/359368606166958080 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          Last year, I pondered the "first social-media fueled ethnic cleansing." With ethnic tensions & expanding online hate speech, is it Burma?
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          With this question: does Facebook have real competition? Nope. There is no real alternative to Facebook: no substantive competition, no real market discipline on the company. It's simple as that.

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          I'm stuck on the Myanmar/Burma answer. Now hiring "dozens..." 😡😡It's the second biggest refugee generating crisis in the world; an accelerating ethnic cleansing where Facebook played an instrumental role over many years, with articles written on this, people raising alarms...

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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Aaron Sankin

          Look, Senators have smart people briefing them, and they have tried to ask reasonable questions. But they often get lost in the details and that's the point. An ordinary person *cannot* meaningfully consent to this level of complexity and obscurity.https://twitter.com/ASankin/status/983799338676596742 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Aaron SankinVerified account @ASankin
          While it's totally legit to dunk on old senators for asking dumb questions about Facebook, this is the level of knowledge that most people have about a thing they use every day. You shouldn't have to be a tech expert to understand the privacy of your online data.
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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          Zuckerberg: ~"I hope what we do with data is not surprising to people." When I explain to people what Facebook does with the data and also how it collects and aggregates data on people, people's jaws are on the floor. Smart, educated people, too. It's all very obscure.

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        8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          So, the fact that he didn't clarify means that Facebook would use Messenger content in targeting? (He just hung on to the fact that WhatsApp is end-to-end encryption). Anyone know?

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        9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          I want to repeat this: the full scope of the amount of data collection, aggregation and retention Facebook does is shocking to most people, and I am certain any poll or research would affirm this. People do not understand because they cannot. It is buried, obscure, complex.

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        10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          Hearings touching upon real issues. What does it mean to be neutral? What's hate speech? What level of verification certifies "authentic"? Those aren't question for Zuckerberg to answer. They're political questions *we* should discuss & tell him—and all tech companies—what to do.

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        11. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          Zuckerberg on not Facebook selling data, my piece points out why that is a red herring as far as Facebook is concerned. It collects and hoards data, and sells not data but *us* and *our attention*—it is in Facebook's interests not to sell data.https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/opinion/zuckerberg-testify-congress.html …

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        12. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          Anyone gonna ask about the newsfeed algorithm? Guess not.

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        13. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          Got my sympathy moment for Zuckerberg's honest answer to whether he can assure Senators that every last ad/content from Russia is off the platform. Not only is that not realistic, honesty wish there was more focus on the domestic conditions that fueled the online manipulation.

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        14. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          The questions almost all start good—staffers briefed them well—and then devolve into misunderstandings. So telling. This is failure of us as media and tech press and pundits, and obfuscation and complexity as practiced by Facebook—indeed, most of tech.

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        15. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Rafiq Copeland

          Business interests vs. human interests. When history of all this is written, Myanmar will be a piece that won’t be ignored. Some of this *is* complex. That was an egregious shrugging of responsibility. They should have made it a giant priority in 2013.https://twitter.com/rafiqcopeland/status/983865814334849024 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Rafiq Copeland @RafiqCopeland
          Replying to @KevinFoley
          In Germany they have 1200 German language content reviewers for 40million users in order to meet the government enforced 24hour review threshold. In Myanmar for 30million it is 'dozens' and they've only just been hired. This doesn't come close. @zeynep
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        16. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2018

          Or—Myanmar is the one issue I think about most. Introducing virality to an ethnically-tense situation with few counter-balancing institutions is potent. Not a game. We have billions more coming online.

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        17. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2018

          I'm half-expecting Zuckerberg to break into a song today... "You don't understand what power is... You don't understand what glory is..." 🎶🎵🎶🎶 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uHpmtAGmvo …

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        18. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2018

          Zuckerberg keeps saying that you have control over what other people you share stuff with on Facebook. Sure. THE QUESTION IS HOW WE KEEP FACEBOOK FROM COLLECTING DATA ON US. Facebook tracks us online, offline, on and off the platform, cross-device and even BUYS external data.🙄🙄

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        19. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted George Sass

          He did a pretty good job pronouncing it! Also, few know the correct pronunciation, so no baseline, no worries. 😀 (FWIW it's T-ew-f-ah-k-chee or T-oo-f-ah-k-chee. The u is like the French ü, and the k is hard k and the c is actually ç so ch sound.)https://twitter.com/george_sass/status/984082371367628801 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          George Sass @george_sass
          Props to Burgess for admitting he was probs gonna botch pronouncing @zeynep's name.
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        20. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2018

          Aah, she was just asking about computational inference and external data, and Zuck is dodging and talking about pictures you take and "we don't sell your data" dog-and-pony show. Facebook track us, uses data + algorithms to infer things about us, and then sells that as targeting!

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        21. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2018

          That last answer: everything Facebook has on you is available on the download to which Zuckerberg said "yes": really? I don't think the data they purchase on you or the data from tracking pixels etc. is on there.

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