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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2018

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Edward Snowden

    Wait! Facebook doesn’t sell people’s data. It profiles people based on extensive data collection and then sells people’s *attention*. CA got data because Facebook was giving it away—not selling. Pass a law saying Facebook can’t sell your data, and Zuckerberg will celebrate it.https://twitter.com/snowden/status/978714961450061826 …

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    Facebook: "This is their information. They own it" BBC: "And you won’t sell it?" FB: "No! Of course not." Please help this 2009 interview of Facebook's CEO get seen by people who don't use Twitter. Here's a download link so you can pull and repost it: https://www.sendspace.com/file/wqwtq5  pic.twitter.com/quERsO5WZi
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2018

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tom Phillips

        Yep! Being accurate matters. Facebook has zero business interest in selling anyone’s data. If anything, that’s what would undermine their actual business.https://twitter.com/flashboy/status/978777785589170177 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Tom PhillipsVerified account @flashboy
        Replying to @zeynep @oliviasolon
        I mean, exactly. Restricting third party access to user information is, to a first approximation, Facebook's current business model. If that's is the "win" we get out of this whole mess, then we've absolutely played ourselves.
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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Mar 2018

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted

        Data ownership won’t save us—it’s a step with very complicated implications. *adds to pieces to write* https://twitter.com/bandanachris/status/978800850582757376 …

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      2. Rick Faa”ice”berg‏ @faabergr 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        I wonder legislation would look like that would help but not become obsolete quickly.

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      3. Vordio‏ @Vordio 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @faabergr @zeynep

        Simple. If you are talking about a valve or inanimate object, it is not personal data, but may be a security issue still. If you claiming it is about a human i.e. using words like 'attention' then it is personal data.

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      1. Vordio‏ @Vordio 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        Slimy. Lawmakers could also classify 'attention' and any other abstract noun relating to people but measured digitally as 'personal' data.

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      2. #MMT: MoralMoneyTime‏ @samvega 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        So, Facebook doesn't sell our data; Facebook just gives away our data to people who give Facebook lots of money?

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      3. Bluberry Morning‏ @MorningBluberry 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @samvega @zeynep

        You’ve heard all of the talk about FB giving away “friend” data to developers via their pre V2.0 API? That’s all free - devs didn’t have to pay (although some would have been buying ads at the same time). Also, Facebook actually buys data on users. https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-doesnt-tell-users-everything-it-really-knows-about-them …

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      2. Tom Phillips‏Verified account @flashboy 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @zeynep @oliviasolon

        I mean, exactly. Restricting third party access to user information is, to a first approximation, Facebook's current business model. If that's is the "win" we get out of this whole mess, then we've absolutely played ourselves.

        1 reply 11 retweets 43 likes
      3. Tom Phillips‏Verified account @flashboy 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @flashboy @zeynep @oliviasolon

        Also restricting access means third party researchers have even less ability to verify whether FB's claims about monitoring misinformation are accurate. Feels like loads of people have missed there are two separate issues here, that pull in opposite directions.

        0 replies 13 retweets 33 likes
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      2. Markus Παππάς 莊子‏ @naepfchentreter 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        Not exactly. Facebook is selling demographic data to advertisers. On a granular level.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2018
        Replying to @naepfchentreter

        Not individual data that I’ve ever seen. What do you mean?

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