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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Maggie Haberman

      😱 *Everyone* in politics or in journalism needs to take this seriously. Get a security key; get an iPhone.https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/978440719319912449 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Maggie HabermanVerified account @maggieNYT
      Shauna Daly with a starring role in his @rubycramer piece on Democrats not actually taking the campaign hacking threats that seriously for 2018 https://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/democrats-know-hackers-will-be-back-in-2018-the-problem?utm_term=.ksBnbm4onW#.hog08Be90w …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Proud European from Austria 🇪🇺 🇦🇹  🌏

      You basically have to cough in the direction of most Android phones. Their security/app access settings are horrible; their hardware security lags way way behind the iPhone. Worst: THEY DON'T GET PATCHED QUICKLY. Sitting ducks.https://twitter.com/EuphoricEuler/status/978708445191983104 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Proud European from Austria 🇪🇺 🇦🇹  🌏 @e2dot7182818284
      Replying to @zeynep
      Why? Device encryption? Or platform api's on Android? (allowing apps access eg to the call log?) Just wondering...
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      We don't have complete information. However, what happened in response to subpoenas and what we know of security by hardware—as in the secure enclave—is as much information as we have and it's clear. Iphone is way way way more secure than Android phones. https://twitter.com/ploum/status/978712600551727104 …

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    4. Tyler McCraw‏ @w3bshark 27 Mar 2018
      Replying to @zeynep

      It is very difficult to cast such a wide net in saying iPhone hardware is more secure. You're comparing one phone manufacturer (Apple) to dozens of manufacturers all of which have hundreds of different models. Samsung, HTC, LG, Huawei, Essential, etc.

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    5. Tyler McCraw‏ @w3bshark 27 Mar 2018
      Replying to @w3bshark @zeynep

      Also, many of the latest Android phones have a TPM module (hardware) which is basically Apple's "secure enclave". Your statements are false here about hardware.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Tyler McCraw‏ @w3bshark 27 Mar 2018
      Replying to @w3bshark @zeynep

      Now, regarding software, I will admit that Google has a bit of catching up to do. However, most of this is now around phone manufacturers and app developers quietly sending analytics about you to their private servers. It's not as much about malware as it was in 2014-2016.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Tyler McCraw‏ @w3bshark 27 Mar 2018
      Replying to @w3bshark @zeynep

      There are many phone manufacturers and service providers who can install root-level applications on your phone before they sell it to you. These apps quite often are tracking you (GPS, phone calls, etc.) without you knowing. Just ask @fs0c131y ;)

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Tyler McCraw‏ @w3bshark 27 Mar 2018
      Replying to @w3bshark @zeynep @fs0c131y

      With the proper know-how, you can remove this junk. But, it shouldn't be allowed in the first place. This is where Apple has a leg up... I think. (We can't be 100% sure, since their software is closed source.)

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    9. Tyler McCraw‏ @w3bshark 27 Mar 2018
      Replying to @w3bshark @zeynep @fs0c131y

      There are entire companies who've been built around the idea that you can install root-level applications on phones and these companies (who shall not be named right now), along w/ manufacturers, and service providers are taking advantage of Android users while they can make 💰

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2018
      Replying to @w3bshark @fs0c131y

      Short of it, for the general, ordinary user, who isn't going to distinguish between the brands and try to figure out all the permissions, is that if they go and buy an iPhone--they are more secure than Android. Advanced users, play as you wish. I deal with the general population!

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @w3bshark @fs0c131y

      It's not that any phone is guaranteed secure, 100%. No such thing. But it seems pretty clear that you have a much more secure environment--from the hardware to the software--in Apple. I'd love for Google/Android ecology to change this. Don't see it.

      3:57 PM - 27 Mar 2018
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        2. Tyler McCraw‏ @w3bshark 27 Mar 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @fs0c131y

          They're actively changing that now. Most Android Phones coming out are fully onboard with Project Treble. And Google Play Protect along with source code verification checks are put in place with ALL existing phones. Times are changing!

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        3. Tyler McCraw‏ @w3bshark 27 Mar 2018
          Replying to @w3bshark @zeynep @fs0c131y

          I won't assume that you haven't looked into Google's active work on security, but I would highly suggest reading about Project Treble. This will (in the future) allow releases to be pushed as frequent or more frequent than iOS.

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