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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Mar 2018

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Fred von Lohmann

    This is good. Should also have one click “opt-put of data archiving of what I subscribe to/read”—in return pay Google a small sum for the ease of subscription. All this is possible. Let us pay directly, easily. We already do, indirectly. Let it be direct.https://twitter.com/flohmann/status/976234641790328832 …

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    Fred von Lohmann @flohmann
    https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/20/google-subscribe-news/ …
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      2. Brendan Minish‏ @b_minish 20 Mar 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        What I'd also like is a functional micro-payment system so I can read articles from outlets I don't wish to subscribe to as an alternative to disabling my adblocker to view content

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      3. O. P. Lovelorn‏ @OPLOVELORN 20 Mar 2018
        Replying to @b_minish @zeynep

        Exactly. 👍👍 I want to support a number of good, curated, traditional news and info outlets, without subscribing to 50 of them, at $200 annually, each.

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      1. Pop Stefanija‏ @pop_stefanija 20 Mar 2018
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        how will this affect access to news in general, especially for those that don’t have means to pay? is this the future of news online? what happened to “internet open for everyone”?

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      1. Aranjedeath‏ @Aranjedeath 20 Mar 2018
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        I would pay a higher rate for "include my data only in overview summaries presented to The Advertiser"

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      1. Korkut‏ @korkutgule 20 Mar 2018
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        We as in the internet using masses have a huge consent problem. As someone who used to work on genome databases, it is grim.

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      1. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 20 Mar 2018
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        Right. Without that, Google is collecting data on the stories you read from those publications, adding to the privacy problem.

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      1. O. P. Lovelorn‏ @OPLOVELORN 20 Mar 2018
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        I have wanted a micropayment pay-per-page view for 15 years as an alternative to ads, let alone tracking. Legit news orgs should have done this years ago. But now, all the Googles / FBs / dotcoms put exorbitant value on click data, so a page view would be $5 these days.

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      2. Lea Kissner‏Verified account @LeaKissner 20 Mar 2018
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        Honest question: how could you operate a payments platform without storing the fact of the payments? The payments are linked with the subscription.

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      3. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 20 Mar 2018
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        My point was actually about a way to pay Google not to track us. But your point? I haven't worked it out in detail, but I strongly suspect there are crypto tricks. https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/ppoad_cr_RLCPS10.pdf … shows how to do targeted ads without a linkable dossier, for example.

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      1. Jovica Popovic  🔺‏ @jpop_32 21 Mar 2018
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        wouldn't that effectively shut out about 3/4 of the world population for which even a few cents would be prohibitively expensive?

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