Massive surveillance and opaque, targeted profiling based on this extensive data isn’t good for us. Facebook provides useful services. We can have such services under different business models & different technological regimes. Silicon Valley is stuck in a (very enriching!) rut.
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And that claim by the Facebook Vice President that everyone whose data was siphoned off, and ultimately used by Trump campaign, because a Facebook friend downloaded an app for a $1 or to $2, “gave their consent”?!
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Also this is my position, too. Whether or not fancy models work becomes much less relevant if you have detailed raw data from 50 million extra people. Massive cost-savings at a minimum—certainly better targeting, better custom and lookalike audiences.https://twitter.com/matthindman/status/975827908051816448 …
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Also people may cheer the suspension of Cambridge Analytica from Facebook but remember: this is effectively kicking off a candidate from the must-use platform. You can argue they deserved it but questions of process remains. Who else may be targeted? Why now? Why not then?
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Yep. How are people supposed to even know that an app a random Facebook friend downloaded could siphon of all *your* data, let alone find the obscure option to turn it off or realize Facebook relinquished control.https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/975856888163250178?s=21 …
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@RonWyden has questions for Facebook. Most of its executives haven’t done a real interview in ages, let alone answer deep questions. https://twitter.com/dnvolz/status/975777204348047361 ….
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The issues are structural. The issues are structural.https://twitter.com/wimlds/status/975961681267277824 …
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Yep. Facebook non-users get profiled, too. This is our online infrastructure: dossiers are accumulated whatever you do.https://twitter.com/stratosathens/status/976040699647922178 …
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We are neither properly informed, nor consenting.https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/976118695721340929 …
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The role of Amazon Turk—global low-pay labor marker—isn’t a minor part of this story.https://twitter.com/smalljones/status/976111106136727553 …
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The most annoying, misguided response: “wait, is anyone really surprised?” Yes, you’re the genius, we’re all idiots. You’re also the person who’d ask “wait, you’re surprised there’s lead in paint.”
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There is no way for an ordinary person to keep track of APIs, latest papers in computational inference, ML, secondary data markets, dark UX, tracking pixels, database mergers and all the rest. Even I can’t find all the privacy options, and I’m technical and this is my research!
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In 2018 elections, Facebook will be marketing such services directly. Not through third parties, but by paying Facebook.
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Zuckerberg has released a statement saying if we can't protect your data, we don't deserve to serve you. The problem is how Facebook serves its true customers, not us, by collecting massive amounts of data on us. He says he's been working to understand. What's the complication?pic.twitter.com/Buill9xKxc
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This talk on how FB will restrict data to third-party apps? It's already happened—years ago. Facebook gave away this data when it helped it grow then cut it down because it wants to directly monetize it itself. We are surveilled, and then our attention is sold. That's the issue.
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Maybe the 50 million whose data was siphoned to Cambridge Analytica will get notified but there were so many many apps doing the same thing. How about those people? Will each incident get a notification? That spigot was open for so many years (when it helped Facebook grow).
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Facebook's CEO constantly releases statements apologizing and wowing to protect our privacy better and promising to do better by "the community." The business model which made him so rich and its harms are never addressed. So we keep coming back to the same point.
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Anyway, here's my TED talk from last year where I talk about all this, and what it means for elections and beyond. No big secret here that Zuckerberg has to discover. Many of us, especially in academia but not just, have been shouting from the rooftops.https://twitter.com/TEDTalks/status/976549911759147008 …
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He controls the voting stock, and the way it is structured he will as long as he wants. (Sandberg seems to be the other person of substantive influence but without the voting stock). But Facebook is effectively under legal control of a single person.https://twitter.com/AaronGreenspan/status/976633746899140609 …
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