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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 17 Mar 2018

      Benedict Evans Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Personally I thought it was good that the CSO of a $500bn company was trying to engage in a public, technical conversation about what, specifically, did and did not happen.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/975067185889427456 …

      Benedict Evans added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Facebook's defense that Cambridge Analytica harvesting of FB user data from millions is not technically a "breach" is a more profound & damning statement of what's wrong with Facebook's business model than a "breach".
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @benedictevans

      Sure. I wasn’t objecting at all to Alex tweeting. That’s not my point above. I agree, this isn’t a security breach in that sense. It’s a structural business model issue. And that’s my point.

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    3. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @zeynep

      You said his tweets were a damning indictment. That’s not an objection?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @benedictevans

      I’d seen Facebook objection to breach language elsewhere, including allegedly legal threats to stop publication of story—so wasn’t referring to his tweets. That said, I think Alex’s explanation does implicate the business model. How is an ordinary person supposed to consent?

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2018
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          zeynep tufekci Retweeted

          Boz, too, was arguing it’s not a technical breach. I agree. Security, privacy, data integrity and informational public goods are not all identical things. https://twitter.com/boztank/status/975018461997887494 …

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        1. Dare Obasanjo‏ @Carnage4Life 17 Mar 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @benedictevans

          FB business model doesn’t require allowing apps to access data of a user’s friends via an API. At one point the tech industry thought this was a good idea in the name of portability and enabling innovation. Clearly we all misjudged how bad actors would misuse such access.

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        2. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 17 Mar 2018
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          This is a strong argument against the openness that almost all academics, journalists and advocates urged on Facebook until very recently.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2018
          Replying to @benedictevans

          Nope! You can easily have access to research that provides public info without letting sleazy apps collect friend info. Put people on site! Independence of research, publish without PR approval, no taking data off site. Done. I know many who’d jump at this and contribute a lot.

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        1. Sarah‏ @geekylamb 19 Mar 2018
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          And consent is exactly the right question. Did the individual knowingly consent to their data being used in this way. We @digime are working on a consent based access system! It seems @facebook would benefit from this right about now...

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