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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Feb 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted profdeibert

      This is awful. I don’t think China would have kicked out Apple. Right now the default is iCloud is on. It’s on Apple to change that default to off in China, and only turn it on after a very very clear warning is presented to the user, with periodic reminders. Lives > convenience.https://twitter.com/rondeibert/status/967401214886363136 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      profdeibert @RonDeibert
      Apple caves to China. Cryptographic keys to iCloud data to be stored in China, accessible to authorities. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insight/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-keys-in-china-raising-human-rights-fears-idUSKCN1G8060 …
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Feb 2018

      When history books are written, this moment will be remembered as a sad, horrible and major turning point. This is the worst possible outcome, and a big one. A lot of downstream effects will come from this, including in more democratic countries, and none of them are good.

      7:44 AM - 24 Feb 2018
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Feb 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted John Mandeville

          Mainland but this is a major, horrible, historic turning point.https://twitter.com/blueskysinking/status/967412156667850752 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          John Mandeville @blueskysinking
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          Hong Kong or just Mainland?
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Feb 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Joel Andren

          Not at all the same. Not one bit. Also Google didn’t cave then. This is more egregious—what’s at stake is much more than censorship. Much more.https://twitter.com/joelandren/status/967454770830049281 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Joel Andren @joelandren
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          Ask Google if china would've kicked out Apple
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted

          “The basic principle of Chinese privacy law is that the underlying owner of all information about people (and the underlying owner of everything else, really) is the state.” https://www.twitter.com/yonatanzunger/status/967594746167177216 …

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Clay Shirky

          Clay says Apple had no leverage. Probably. I’d say they still could’ve said no—come what may. Maybe the idea that the entire industrial base for tech and other industries could just be outsourced with no consequences for our rights wasn’t all justified.https://twitter.com/cshirky/status/967594193731203072?s=21 …

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          Clay ShirkyVerified account @cshirky
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          Zeynep. China would have kicked out Apple. They just took over Anbang, which is a much bigger deal than ejecting foreign firm. What Apple did is awful, but there is zero leverage -- zero -- in siding with users over the CCP. Apple:China::(Blackberry:India)x1000
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        1. Thomas Svenson  🖖‏ @tsvenson 24 Feb 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          Can we view this in the same context as Apple's refusal to implement backdoors on government requests, as was discussed in the big legal case a year ago?

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        1. BrianSJ‏ @BrianSJ3 24 Feb 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          For a start it will be spread all along the Belt and Road Initiative which is a huge chunk of the world.

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        2. Alexandre Taillandier‏ @alext_ew 24 Feb 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          Interesting that Apple is the barometer to your (justified) fears. A lot of other tech giants, and multinational corporation in general, constantly shape-shift to accommodate local norms despite the perceived positive CSR image back "home".

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        3. Heart-shaped CoV Protease‏ @H2CO3_iOS 24 Feb 2018
          Replying to @alext_ew @zeynep

          It's not surprising at all. Apple used to be the one out of the 4-5 giants that really seemed to care about user data an privacy rights. If *they* give up on that, that clearly sets a precedent.

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        1. Von Vonson‏ @von_vonson 24 Feb 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          lol that apple would rather sacrifice the privacy of millionis than even dare lose access to those cheap, human rights violating factories

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        2. Márton Marczell‏ @marczellm 24 Feb 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          @H2CO3_iOS That's nonsense. History books couldn't care less about privacy aspects of expensive gadgets.

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        3. Heart-shaped CoV Protease‏ @H2CO3_iOS 24 Feb 2018
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          it was figurative language…

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