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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @matthewstoller

      What you are missing is this: to have this anti-populist, insular politics, you need to disempower the local infrastructure because their+

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @matthewstoller

      ..soul and tendencies are pretty much opposed to what the DC leadership largely did for the recent past. That's part of your "vision" issue.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep

      Go attend a state political convention and do tell me about the 'soul' of the gruesome hacks you find there.

      3 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @matthewstoller

      I'm talking grassroots that has emerged and is on fire after 2016, you are talking something completely different. Not sure how to continue.

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    5. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep

      I've heard this every cycle since 2002. I've read the history. This model has always failed. Always. Grassroots isn't virtuous. It just is.

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    6. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @matthewstoller @zeynep

      What you need is a vision, with leaders from all over, including DC. What we have are failures, all over, including DC.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @matthewstoller

      I don't know why you are arguing "vision" thing with me since I didn't even disagree.

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    8. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep

      Yeah I don't think we disagree on that much, which is why I'm engaging with you on it.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @matthewstoller

      Been here, involved studying US movements since 2002; I'd say that there has never been this kind of mobilization. Not Occupy, not anti-war.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @matthewstoller

      And many the themes you'd want in that "vision": monopoly, fairness, opportunity, are integral to that mobilization. Lacking infrastructure.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @matthewstoller

      Pointing out you cannot build political power without local electoral/grassroots infrastructure isn't countering the "vision" issue.

      7:11 AM - 21 Jun 2017
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        2. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 21 Jun 2017
          Replying to @zeynep

          But isn't there a ton of this now? I thought you said there's more mobilization than you've ever seen.

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        3. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 21 Jun 2017
          Replying to @matthewstoller @zeynep

          I see a lot of mobilization, but I also see a lot of mobilization of people to fight other mobilized people who have shared interests.

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