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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin @kreissdaniel

      And it can explain change, why not? See this a lot in history of tech. Changes hands.

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    2. Andrew Perrin‏ @AndrewJPerrin 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @kreissdaniel

      Question is whether data prowess can only mediate money/power=>victory, or can it also moderate. '08 suggests moderation is possible.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @AndrewJPerrin @kreissdaniel

      The mechanism isn't stable, though, and the question I'm interested in is its evolution.

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    4. Daniel Kreiss‏ @kreissdaniel 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin

      Well, empirically I would say that parties still drive this process for all sorts of institutional reasons.

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    5. Daniel Kreiss‏ @kreissdaniel 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @kreissdaniel @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin

      And, empirically the evidence from this cycle is not at all clear about the role of outside groups in this sort of targeting.

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    6. Daniel Kreiss‏ @kreissdaniel 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @kreissdaniel @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin

      I'm not sure the pushback your received in 2012, but it seemed less about other people using data and more it's limited effects

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    7. Daniel Kreiss‏ @kreissdaniel 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @kreissdaniel @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin

      In other words, lots of other things matter a lot more - candidates for instance. Data gain efficiency on the margins, and targeting message

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    8. Daniel Kreiss‏ @kreissdaniel 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @kreissdaniel @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin

      Takes place in a much more dynamic media ecosystem - politics is not reducible to Facebook ads.

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    9. Daniel Kreiss‏ @kreissdaniel 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @kreissdaniel @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin

      I thought that was Ethan's point... that at the end of the day, it is not mass manipulation but gains in things like turnout

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @kreissdaniel @AndrewJPerrin

      Obviously candidates matter. But Facebook/social media shapes a lot more than through ads though those also matter.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @kreissdaniel @AndrewJPerrin

      Obviously, like anything else interesting, this is a multi causal process. But I don't think the party infrastructure change that much+

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2017
          Replying to @zeynep @kreissdaniel @AndrewJPerrin

          in just a few years, in a way that made misinformation campaign is so much more viable. But the public/info sphere has been changing fast.

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        3. Daniel Kreiss‏ @kreissdaniel 1 Jun 2017
          Replying to @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin

          Maybe, maybe not. I don't quite accept that as an empirical matter that the public/info sphere is radically different in consequential ways

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