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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @matthewstoller @zeynep

      That has nothing to do with the collapse of Windows share. And Chrome came a very long time after those cases.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @benedictevans @matthewstoller @zeynep

      The deeper point you're missing - Microsoft's monopoly evaporated because the market changed. Anti-trust was entirely peripheral

      3 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    3. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @benedictevans @matthewstoller @zeynep

      And the monopoly DID evaporate. It's gone.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @benedictevans @matthewstoller

      I'm just not seeing how its monopoly is gone especially in institutions. (Do you mean smartphones? Yes; it never transitioned there).

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @matthewstoller

      Last year 250 Windows PCs and 1.5bn smartphones were sold. Microsoft's dominance is gone.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @benedictevans @matthewstoller

      What percentage of software/OS spending at the enterprise/institution level (where the money is) would you say goes to MS Win/office?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @matthewstoller

      Microsoft has not been a leader in enterprise software for a very very long time.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @benedictevans @zeynep @matthewstoller

      Respectfully, the tech industry had this argument years ago. PCs are the old generation and mobile replaces them.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @benedictevans @matthewstoller

      Here's disagreement/agreement. I think you are right for the future. I argue MS still holding on—for decades!—because of monopoly/legacy.

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    10. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @matthewstoller

      No, the disagreement is whether Microsoft's monopoly was ended by state action. I'd argue that it was ended by the market changing.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2017
      Replying to @benedictevans @matthewstoller

      Our point is that it's taking decades and decades to unravel—with stagnant company still printing money—and might not have without action.

      10:17 AM - 23 Apr 2017
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        1. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 23 Apr 2017
          Replying to @zeynep @benedictevans

          Markets always change, key is we didn't let Microsoft leverage its power in one part of the stack to another.

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