These are people on direct flights, therefore with visa or exemption to US. They thus have other options.https://twitter.com/lightlight/status/844151175964479488 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Filippo ${jndi:ldap://filippo.io/t} Valsorda
This argues that the cargo hold (where laptops now go) is not any safer (no access).https://twitter.com/filosottile/status/844159070726770688 …
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Yet to hear a convincing threat model for banning laptops only from cabin only on flights only from few countries. Dangerous=universal ban.
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Anyone with a valid US visa is exempt from requiring a transit visa to fly to US through Frankfurt. Hence direct flight ban prevents what?
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If the argument is that the ground staff at those airports are colluding, would then need to ban all direct flights. They'd thwart your ban.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Henry Farrell
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@henryfarrell with the argument that the laptop ban is retaliation for gov't subsidies those airlines get.https://twitter.com/henryfarrell/status/844169576858505216 …zeynep tufekci added,
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I've not yet seen even a flimsy argument why terrorists can't fly via Frankfurt, or why Kindle reader more dangerous than Iphone 6S Plus...
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Alexander Marquardt
If there is a threat, you need a much, much wider, universal ban—and explain why Ipads & Kindles but not phablets.https://twitter.com/marquardta/status/844187325609459712 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted
I believe they may be implying people smuggling components, assembling in bathroom. Again, would need universal ban. https://twitter.com/drjohnhorgan/status/844212317806125057 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Stefano Zanero
Yep. FAA long been "freaked out" about *unattended* lithium ion batteries in cargo holds—where they will now all go.https://twitter.com/raistolo/status/844215159237283840 …
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Here's the FAA "safety alert" from last year. Now, these batteries will all go into cargo area, unattended. https://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/airline_operators/airline_safety/safo/all_safos/media/2015/safo15010.pdf …pic.twitter.com/d5uVC83Vqw
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Most charitable reading is there is a credible threat of assembling a bomb out of lithium ion + laptop components—requiring universal ban.
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if that's a risk though surely it's a risk regardless of where the plane is to or from
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major issue. I'm at international battery conf - let me know if you need a expert to discuss.
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