History of the state; history of the police; history of infiltration pretty much says one thing: assume it will happen if+
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Replying to @zeynep @murakamiwood
..group gets beyond a few youngsters or ever expands or recruits. *That* is wide-eyed realism; painfully learned historically.
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Replying to @zeynep @murakamiwood
Too many have not (yet( lived through a period of deep & wide repression, let alone many. Being wide-eyed realist is needed.
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Replying to @zeynep
Are you trying to tell me that everyone who has lived through repression comes to the same political conclusions as you? Come on...
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Replying to @murakamiwood
No, I am telling you my own conclusions obviously. Masks in protests are underestimating the state and surveillance.
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Replying to @zeynep @murakamiwood
And people often don't find this out till they live through actual periods of deep & wide repression. History is helpful tho!
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Replying to @zeynep
History is helpful. But saying 'history' isn't an argument. History doesn't speak to us with one voice.
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Replying to @murakamiwood
I can only argue my own conclusions, and in my view, this one is fairly clearly tilted this way.
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Replying to @murakamiwood
What else can it be? I can only hope fewer people in the Western world have a chance to figure this out like us.
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(Though there is clearly a lot of Western experience with this too; decades of this UK & US and Canada... Just not as recent).
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