Also, yep—every group gets infiltrated. Assuming that to be default is a good way to be in the world; black bloc et al. don't.
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Replying to @zeynep @murakamiwood
The state and the police, not to be underestimated; many summer children running around & being encouraged by romanticization.
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History of the state; history of the police; history of infiltration pretty much says one thing: assume it will happen if+
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..group gets beyond a few youngsters or ever expands or recruits. *That* is wide-eyed realism; painfully learned historically.
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Replying to @zeynep @murakamiwood
Too many have not (yet( lived through a period of deep & wide repression, let alone many. Being wide-eyed realist is needed.
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Are you trying to tell me that everyone who has lived through repression comes to the same political conclusions as you? Come on...
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Replying to @murakamiwood
No, I am telling you my own conclusions obviously. Masks in protests are underestimating the state and surveillance.
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Replying to @zeynep @murakamiwood
And people often don't find this out till they live through actual periods of deep & wide repression. History is helpful tho!
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Replying to @zeynep
History is helpful. But saying 'history' isn't an argument. History doesn't speak to us with one voice.
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Replying to @murakamiwood
I can only argue my own conclusions, and in my view, this one is fairly clearly tilted this way.
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(Another fun fact: who else shows up in protests in masks? Entrapment agents. This has happened so so often...)
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Replying to @zeynep
Masks are worn by all kinds of people in all kinds of circumstances. Cherry-picking 'fun facts' is again not making a serious point.
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