Not same. Infiltration of (in their mind) secrecy-based groups has very different outcomes/consequences.
Also, yep—every group gets infiltrated. Assuming that to be default is a good way to be in the world; black bloc et al. don't.
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The state and the police, not to be underestimated; many summer children running around & being encouraged by romanticization.
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History of the state; history of the police; history of infiltration pretty much says one thing: assume it will happen if+
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