Permanent bureaucracy and/or non-electoral institutions diverging with the electoral branch not that uncommon even in liberal democracies.
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In the Turkey case, that's not what it means. There was a shadowy, cross-institution occasionally *armed* network conducting killings, etc.
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I think it has the misfortune of being the world's most resonant-sounding phrase, which makes people overeager to apply the concept.
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But people are specifically using the term deep state in the US to mean the CIA and FBI, not the National Park Service.
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Like, I get that Turkey seems like an attractive model but people have no clue?
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Not since A. Jackson have we had non-systemic Pres so people witnessing existence of formal pol institutions for 1st time
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When you get the Slovenian model remember she's the First Lady. :/
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The *concept* as used in USA doesn't come from Turkey, goes back to radical 60s / 70s scholarship vs. FBI COINTELPRO etc.
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Maybe, but it's presented in many articles including above with the Turkish flag and Turkey examples and no other discussion.
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