We are in agreement that things are multifactor, as they always are. My point: they *helped* derail. They were infiltrated...
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Replying to @zeynep
In this case it was a very minimal factor. Was surprised at how the movement became so sturdy/large in spite of their presence.
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Replying to @BiellaColeman
It disagree on that part. It wasn't the only factor, but it was not minimal damage, and given how many were infiltrators..
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Replying to @zeynep
Micah White's book on the predictability of protest, and Todd Wolfson book on IMC seem to capture the larger trends I am pointing 2
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Replying to @BiellaColeman @zeynep
and it's refreshing to see antifa perspectives gaining traction in times that definitely call for them
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Replying to @danmcquillan @zeynep
I agree. I think it has its very valid place. And in the counterglobalization movement thrived due to its diversity
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Replying to @BiellaColeman @danmcquillan
And I think that, inter alia, it greatly kneecapped the movement; and will do so again. This makes me sad but..
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..I don't know how else to convince ppl that unaccountable people in black masks will always be infiltrated+
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this is not true. No black bloc i know of has been "infiltrated" you can spot cops instantly
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Replying to @davidgraeber
You are going to tell people to trust your? (or one's) ability "to spot cops instantly" while inviting felony charges?!?!
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I am not sure how to have this discussion after that claim...
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