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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @ggreenwald

      Also noteworthy: infosec Twitter jumped on & debunked that story quickly; same group has diff view on Russia/DNC.

      2 replies 1 retweet 16 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @ggreenwald

      i.e. expertise exists; not all of it is groupthink or Russia bandwagon but traditional media reporting on cybersec often lousy.

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    3. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @zeynep

      It was very predictable how that story would be perceived - the huge impact it'd have - and maximum caution was required.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @ggreenwald

      Totally agree—very bad story. But it's like the PropOrNot story. WaPo failed on both; problem the story is about real though.

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @zeynep

      But as someone validly concerned about Fake News, don't you think stories like this lay the groundwork w/a collapse of trust?

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @ggreenwald

      They do! Trad media failures have absolutely eroded trust in them; what's jumping into the gap is often different beast though.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @ggreenwald

      My concern in the original thread was the need for understanding different mechanisms of failure; if all lumped same, can't fix.

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @ggreenwald

      Trad journalism has had major failures; internet business model fueling more. Still, it has a normative form that it fails from.

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @ggreenwald

      That normative form is worth defending and figuring out ways to (re)build institutionally—even while knowing will still fail.

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    10. Tom Gara‏Verified account @tomgara 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @zeynep @ggreenwald

      It's great to see WaPo reinvigorated and growing etc, but these two awful Russia stories do seem symptom of its new form

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @tomgara @ggreenwald

      I agree. They went to the publish often+ jump on virality as model and imo we have two big failure cases VT+Propornot.

      1:59 PM - 3 Jan 2017
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        2. Tom Gara‏Verified account @tomgara 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @zeynep @ggreenwald

          Right, the old WaPo was slower and duller and probably dying etc, but I don't think it would have made these mistakes.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @tomgara @ggreenwald

          I do think the financing models have a lot to do with some (newer) issues; just like access journalism has huge costs.

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