what McCain said objectively false. The US has not "done nothing" in Syria. This isn't debatable.
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC @zeynep
using your logic RT could say Russia had "done nothing" to sway US election because it didn't directly hack voting machines.
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC
You could write an opinion piece saying RU interference didn't have an impact because votes counted correctly, it would be+
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Replying to @zeynep
no not impact, if they said "Russia did nothing" this would be false. As is McCains statement.
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC
I disagree with most of his reasoning *and* your interpretation of it as fake news. Sorry, just don't see that as fake news.
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Replying to @zeynep
Again, do you have criteria? Because you get closer and closer to saying only non-institutional things are fake news
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Replying to @emptywheel @adamjohnsonNYC
Can't do a 140 definition; working on longer material. Definitely want to differentiate trad journalism failure.
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Replying to @zeynep @emptywheel
do you believe "traditional journalism" cannot, by definition, publish fake news?
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC @emptywheel
It fails in different ways than what got called "fake news" does. It can fail horribly. But not same. That's it.
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Replying to @zeynep @emptywheel
this more or less confirms my suspicion "fake news" is a power-serving tautology designed to indemnify mainstream media.
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Trad media is overly focused on fake news to indemnify itself; that I'd agree. Still doesn't make it same issue.
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Why aren't any of you addressing *disinformation* published by corporate media, not just misinformation?
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Replying to @ojoscriollos @zeynep and
Adam and Marcy are. Follow them both.
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