I agree people can be too liberal to call earnest errors fake news but u seem to think WaPo, by definition, cannot publish fake news
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or that mens rea is limited just to Macedonia troll holes rather than ideological pressure to publish bad things about Russia.
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I agree there is a spectrum of failure; it all matters. It's just not the same thing. Let's not conflate it all.
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this is pure tautology. Your definition of "fake news" omits traditional news outlets without any objective reason to do so.
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simply because you assume their editorial process is entirely lacking in bad faith. Which i don't think is always true.
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Gullibility & editorial bad faith still distinguishable from fabrication by (sometimes ideologically disinterested) parties.
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I'm not absolving traditional media failures (or not realizing that they are jumping on fake news as bandwagon) but that...
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Calling everything "fake news" doesn't help understand the spectrum of failure, with many modalities (and some overlaps).
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also i never said call "everything" fake news, this is a strawman you keep bashing
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sorry to but in but I have a Q - where does the old label of yellow journalism fit in here? Is it even used anymore?
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It's part of the antecedent to one major strain of this; I agree.
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for me,the fake news label is for literal magic 8 ball fiction mills. Terms like propaganda,false stmnt etc for rest
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