There is no, and never was, "perfect news." Pls stop referring to every mode of failure of news as "fake news". Conflation is not analysis.
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Replying to @zeynep
Again, the reason fake news has gained purchase recently is bc of major fail at traditional media. They cannot be separated.
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Replying to @emptywheel @zeynep
And WaPo more than any other outlet has to live by the terms it has adopted. It failed its own fake news criteria here.
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Replying to @emptywheel
No it hasn't. Different mode of failure. So obviously so that I'm not sure there can be a serious discussion.
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Replying to @zeynep @emptywheel
Reports story without sufficient techical understanding—then retracts. Can't tell that from "Pope endorses Trump" at click farm?
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Replying to @zeynep
Let's try another one. Was Bret Baier's "Scoop" that Hillary was going to be indicted fake news?
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Replying to @emptywheel
Ah. No. Not as "fake news" came to be a topic. Egregious, deliberate misinformation, the news spectrum closest to fake news but+
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Replying to @zeynep @emptywheel
still not the same thing. Doesn't make it benign. Just isn't identical.
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So how is that deliberate misinformation different from Pope endorses Trump misinformation?
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Source, goal, ecology, ideology. Deliberate misinformation isn't new.
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You're certain all the Pope endorses Trump people don't share pro-Trump ideology that FBI Agents leaking do?
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Replying to @emptywheel @zeynep
I'm happy to say that algo-driven misinfo is different from human-driver misinfo. But neither should be called "fake news."
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