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    1. Kranz Ferdinand‏ @kranzman 27 Dec 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      why not frame UBI as a more efficient and durable safety net? UBI wouldn't eliminate work, rather make it less exploitative

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Dec 2016
      Replying to @kranzman

      I'm fine for seeing it as a safety net feature; doesn't replace the need for creating a more just set up than what we have.

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    3. Kranz Ferdinand‏ @kranzman 27 Dec 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      by itself isn't a miracle cure for all ills but isn't it more just than the hodge podge of programs out there now?

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Dec 2016
      Replying to @kranzman

      Current system is horrific. I was trying to point out that a minimal income amidst great inequality is not a great path.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Dec 2016
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      What you need is a renegotiation of how we value what people are and what they do, something against the idea they're redundant.

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    6. Kranz Ferdinand‏ @kranzman 27 Dec 2016
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      couldn't agree more and I think UBI works toward that. Is there an alternative to UBI that would do that?

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Dec 2016
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      Shorter work week and paying much better for (or paying at all) for a lot of care work (can't be automated) for one.

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    8. Kranz Ferdinand‏ @kranzman 27 Dec 2016
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      I definitely support that, but how? Are there examples of other countries mandating shorter workweeks by law?

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    9. Kranz Ferdinand‏ @kranzman 27 Dec 2016
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      wouldnt UBI help give workers the leverage to choose fewer hours?

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Dec 2016
      Replying to @kranzman

      Sure, but to be honest... none of this by itself is going to give workers much leverage. Need a wholesale renegotiation.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Dec 2016
      Replying to @zeynep @kranzman

      My point about UBI—now being quoted out of context-—is that ppl won't be happy with some minimal income amidst great inequality.

      8:56 PM - 27 Dec 2016
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        1. uwu roi‏ @vegket 27 Dec 2016
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          That depends on what that income can buy. Welfare should address use values first; an exchange value guarantee comes 2nd

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