No. Different beast.
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Replying to @zeynep @adamjohnsonNYC
what about when journalists lie? is that fake news? (no I'm not accusing you of lying)
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Replying to @theleftfarmer @adamjohnsonNYC
I wouldn't say so. Different mode of failure.
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Replying to @zeynep @adamjohnsonNYC
eg there's a chrome app that is supposed to identify 'fake news' but it added
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Replying to @theleftfarmer @adamjohnsonNYC
Some random person/group building an app does not make fake news an irrelevant discussion or dynamic.
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Replying to @zeynep
the issue isn't a random person person building an app it's the dozen media outlets that promote it
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC
Yes, mass media wants to talk about something besides itself. That still doesn't make the topic unimportant.
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Replying to @zeynep
I deal in what is, not whats theoretical. & over past month major media has conflated deliberate hoaxes w/slippery def of propaganda
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC
And I'm saying conflating it with failures of traditional journalism isn't helpful either; which is why I objected.
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Replying to @zeynep
there hasn't been a moral panic surrounding traditional media or a rush to reform it, there has for "fake news", thus the contrast
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I am seeing a huge amount of panic about failing of traditional media; just not much in media itself.
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Replying to @zeynep @adamjohnsonNYC
Either case, no need to conflate two different modes of failure. I'll just stop repeating this now.
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Replying to @zeynep @adamjohnsonNYC
2 different failures, yet big media only focus on the 1 far less impt for understanding current political reality 1/
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