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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @derekwillis

      hah, true, but doesn't work. Too short; some see, some don't. Hard to understand. Burden was on topline, to communicate better.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Derek Willis‏Verified account @derekwillis 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      do we know how many reporters visited the 538 topline and didn't read footnotes?

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @derekwillis

      hahaha would love a survey and would bet you an expensive dinner 1-they don't; 2-not written at their level.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Derek Willis‏Verified account @derekwillis 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      seems like you're putting most of blame on forecasting, which strikes me as very unfair.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @derekwillis

      Gosh no. Hard to untangle. Communicating —plainly & visually—uncertainty & error have to become integral to data journalism.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. Derek Willis‏Verified account @derekwillis 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      you've spent a lot of time saying that forecasting had huge influence on reporters, editors & voters.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Nov 2016
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      I think it did. Would they fail as bad on editorial allocation without it? Dunno. Maybe, maybe not.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/802656352799629312 …

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      Pre-election from NYT, WaPo & Politico: Clinton email server (first) outnumbered Trump conflict-of-interest stories five to one:1372 vs 279. pic.twitter.com/FrTBarILS0
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    8. Derek Willis‏Verified account @derekwillis 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      and there are no other possible factors of equal weight? TV coverage?

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @derekwillis

      I can name ten factors; doesn't make any one of them not worth exploring, especially if it is one's field.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Derek Willis‏Verified account @derekwillis 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      as someone who witnessed newsroom impact of it in 2012, i don't think it lines up exactly the way you suggest.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Nov 2016
      Replying to @derekwillis

      It's worth considering if the convergent certainty in 2016 played differently than more contested 2012.

      8:08 AM - 27 Nov 2016
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        1. Derek Willis‏Verified account @derekwillis 27 Nov 2016
          Replying to @zeynep

          no, i mean that i think the idea that reporters just blindly accepted it in either year is not particularly supported.

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        2. Derek Willis‏Verified account @derekwillis 27 Nov 2016
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          there was outright hostility to it in 2012 in NYT newsroom; that, more than uncertainty in forecast, had impact.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Nov 2016
          Replying to @derekwillis

          I take your point; I think it might have been different in 2016. Something worth looking at. I think it had more influence.

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