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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      Statistical analyses can't catch 1-3% swings. They can't audit the machines. They suggest no outcome change, though, if enough paper margin.

      1 reply 19 retweets 25 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      Every four years: Experts warn for years about insecure black box voting machines. Brief post-election attention. No change. Rinse, repeat

      8 replies 109 retweets 104 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      Like gerrymandering & voting restrictions. Mostly discussed after elections. Missing: Show up at midterms. Win states. Help people get IDs.

      2 replies 83 retweets 129 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      Look, audits should be routine. But ... no way to audit PA. Without VVPAT=no paper trail. Stats can't judge a 1-2% swing. This needs fixing.pic.twitter.com/POML6sOgno

      6 replies 42 retweets 53 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
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      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Lee M. Williams

      Fine but post-hoc audit cannot resolve. Insecure, secret code. Can erase own logs, etc. Must junk these machines.https://twitter.com/leemwilliams/status/802612915069067264 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Lee M. Williams @leemwilliams
      Replying to @TheRichardSands @zeynep
      According to docs filed yesterday there will be a spot audit on machines.
      8 replies 21 retweets 31 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
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      zeynep tufekci Retweeted matt blaze

      The way forward is to fix this going forward. Too many people have false hopes; little attention on how to fix it.https://twitter.com/mattblaze/status/802614432509685762 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      matt blazeVerified account @mattblaze
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      And also, audit MUST include back end systems (provisioning and counting).
      4 replies 11 retweets 24 likes
    7. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      The useful thing that might come out of an audit, if done properly, is badly needed insight into the practical threat environment.

      2 replies 2 retweets 10 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @mattblaze

      Yes. Though the adversary is sophisticated enough—or, given horrible record of DRE machines, merely competent—what do you find?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep @mattblaze

      I think a proper audit would allow us to see how crappy the systems truly are, and get rid of them in the remaining states.

      1 reply 4 retweets 13 likes
    10. Jonathan Zittrain‏Verified account @zittrain 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep @mattblaze

      I don't think the audit for Wisconsin (and elsewhere?) will interrogate the pieces of the system you're worried about.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zittrain @mattblaze

      You are likely right. Maybe just have to wait for these machines to fully fall apart? GA DREs are creaky & Win 2000.

      1:05 PM - 26 Nov 2016
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        2. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 26 Nov 2016
          Replying to @zeynep @zittrain

          “Audit” can mean so many different things, most of them fairly meaningless.

          2 replies 3 retweets 10 likes
        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 26 Nov 2016
          Replying to @mattblaze @zeynep @zittrain

          what would a meaningful version of a voting machine ‘audit’ look like?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Saul Tannenbaum‏ @stannenb 26 Nov 2016
          Replying to @zeynep @zittrain @mattblaze

          And, before you get to the voting machine issues, remember that Wisconsin is a voter suppression state.

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