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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Trevor Timm‏Verified account @trevortimm 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      fake news can be a problem and also there can be plenty of reasons we shouldn't want them deciding what's real news and what's fake

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2016
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      That is not the question. They are already deciding what to incentive, what to hide, and what to make financially lucrative.

      2 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
    3. Trevor Timm‏Verified account @trevortimm 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      I would prefer they didn't expand that power. What you're saying is "it's not about censorship, it's about controlling what ppl see"

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @trevortimm

      It's about incentivizing, yes. Not using the power they already have to fan worst flames in society isn't expanding their power.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2016
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      "Censorship" isn't remotely related to this discussion.

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    6. Trevor Timm‏Verified account @trevortimm 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      sure it is. no one has agreed on definition of "fake." Many ppl's lists contain partisan, advocacy, and misleading sites--not fake.

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2016
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      I don't think lists are the way to go. I'm wary of them. Though, if you cannot agree that there is no "Denver Guardian" or that+

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Trevor Timm‏Verified account @trevortimm 24 Nov 2016
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      glad we agree a lot of people have different definitions of "fake" and that would be problematic!

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @trevortimm

      Actually, I think there is a lot of common ground on "fake"—you have no society without it—I just don't think lists will work.

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    10. Trevor Timm‏Verified account @trevortimm 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @zeynep

      you've written so much great stuff on the problems with algorithms. It's weird you think they'll solve this complex problem here

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @trevortimm

      Not solve, but improve. Nobody is censoring anything. They already have rules. They should have much better rules.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2016
          Replying to @zeynep @trevortimm

          I'd be for nixing the fraudulent stuff from ad and feed network—to stop everyone else competing with them—but that's tiny group.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2016
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          Such cases are few, though—Denver Guardian type stuff. If we literally cannot agree that's fraud, I think there's no hope.

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        1. Joris van Hoboken‏ @jorisvanhoboken 24 Nov 2016
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          it's not just rules but the (predictable lack of) resources that are put into enforcing them that causes issues...

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        1. Peter‏ @peter_donnelly 24 Nov 2016
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          .@zeynep @trevortimm Not a hope in hell.

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