What planet am I on? Anyone know how to ping Juno to request a ride? Any app for that?https://twitter.com/ayca_cu/status/750704731593510912 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Phil Tinline
Germany welcomed back into humanity only few years after Auschwitz. But Middle East is ancient, unsolvable hatreds.https://twitter.com/phil_tinline/status/750724571851030530 …
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@phil_tinline you are right in principle. However, Germany was much more homogeneous than Middle East. Much easier to keep peace1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Add it up: Europe fought more over Alsace-Lorraine than Middle East sects over a thousand years. Now no issue in EU.
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1945 Germany & 2003 Iraq both post-fascist but a big difference: Grmy crushed in war it started; feared resistance minimal
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Immediate aftermath of Iraq war also quiet. Remember, people hated Saddam. This could have gone very differently.
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The absolute bungling of the occupation was bigger issue than the war. Many friends went to Iraq; no issue at first.
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As I said earlier, too few troops & lack of grip were clearly a problem. But what's 1945 version of Zarqawi or Mahdi Army?
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If the Allied forces had created, I dunno, a systematic torture by sexual humiliation in jails, they'd show up.
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The occupation of Japan & Germany bent the stick in favor of peace and generosity; even at the expense of justice.
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Many friends in Iraq during those months; Iraqis were ready for many good things; including peace. It was bungled.
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Agreed.
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It was worth a try; and had a reasonable shot and much good could come from democratic stabilization in MENA.
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