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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Andrew Perrin‏ @AndrewJPerrin 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @followlori

      IMO @zeynep overstates the technological cause. At least as much about the democratization of primaries mid-20th C. @followlori

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @AndrewJPerrin @followlori

      My argument is that the technological affordances allow fund-raising and messaging; makes threats credible.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Andrew Perrin‏ @AndrewJPerrin 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @zeynep @followlori

      I get that. But the outcome is overdetermined- threats seemed credible in prior years w different tech regimes.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @AndrewJPerrin @followlori

      I thought Dean was the first harbinger threat. Obama actually won against the "invisible primary" candidate.

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    5. Andrew Perrin‏ @AndrewJPerrin 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @zeynep @followlori

      Jackson '88, T. Kennedy, Kennedy '68, McGovern '72.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @AndrewJPerrin @followlori

      So, Jackson: no internet; fell short. 68-72 is the previous shake-up that got the "invisible primary" response.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Andrew Perrin‏ @AndrewJPerrin 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @zeynep @followlori

      yup. And Dean: Internet, fell short. Sanders: Internet, fell short. Variable can't explain a constant.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @AndrewJPerrin @followlori

      My narrative: Dean: harbinger of new mode. Obama: proof of concept. Sanders: a 74-year old Vermonter got so far.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @zeynep @AndrewJPerrin @followlori

      So the interesting question is 2020 and 2024. I would expect insurgent campaigns to try again.

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    10. Andrew Perrin‏ @AndrewJPerrin 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @zeynep @followlori

      of course they'll try again. Question is whether Internet is the key causal variable. I say no.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Jun 2016
      Replying to @AndrewJPerrin @followlori

      I think insurgents now have money & messaging & coordination tools unlike before. We shall see with more cases!

      8:48 AM - 14 Jun 2016 from Manhattan, NY
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