The problem isn't the algorithm part, it's the opaque bias part, and that's where the emphasis should be.
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Replying to @mattblaze @zeynep
Also, in some cases, the problem may not even be the algorithm itself, but rather the data it was trained with.
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the way it's used now denotes the whole process. I avoided the term for long, and then found can't speak about topic in public.
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Yup. Matt, Zeynep is right. The word has shifted meaning in public discourse, just as "hacker" did.
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I'm not sure that's it's shifted. This usage is quite new, and it's only be used by a relatively small elite.
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... which means that people
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I don't think so, but I've long been a descriptivist, not a prescriptivist, when it comes to language.
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The problem is it's genuinely confusing. Are we objecting to the use of an algorithm per se, or properties of it?
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... sometimes it's one, and sometimes it's the other. Need distinct terms.
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For example, if we say "job applicants shouldn't be evaluated by an algorithm", it could be EITHER meaning.
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I guess I'd always be talking about algorithm's properties, especially emergent properties.
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I had a definitional section, got chopped for space. I inserted "algorithms in human affairs" as clumsy shorthand.
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Anyway, this is a quite interesting discussion, but I need to be off to bed. 'Night!
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