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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 May 2016

    Math doesn't make algorithms scientific. Subjective decisions cannot be "neutral". My piece. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/opinion/the-real-bias-built-in-at-facebook.html …pic.twitter.com/78fh6C54Fs

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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 May 2016
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        There's a difference between automation to fly a plane & using computation to make a decision with no right answer. This cannot be overcome.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 May 2016
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        Algorithms in human affairs are complex, dynamic, increasingly opaque (even to their coders) & now used in systems where we can't calibrate.

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      2. cüneyt özdemir‏Verified account @cuneytozdemir 19 May 2016
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        Yazınızı okudum söylediklerinizde haklısınız ama ya algorgitmayı yazanların niyeti sadece reklam almak değilse! Manipüle edebilirler

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 May 2016
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        O da ayrı sorun tabi. Bu sistemler kapalı kutu oldukları için haberimiz bile olmaz. Bunu çok yazdım. (Bulup link gönderirim).

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      1. An Automaton Adrift‏ @loewenheim 19 May 2016
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        @SallyStrange Calling algorithms "objective" is not even wrong. Might as well call a screwdriver objective.

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      1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 May 2016

        We can't be neutral. But we can study what values we're encoding and try to do better, consciously.

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      1. Truly Unsecular‏ @secularmoi 19 May 2016
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        totally agree to you. But do people need to be told that?!?

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      1. rb‏ @twitingmachine 19 May 2016
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        You should do a study of credit scoring companies (eg FICO) to confirm just that.

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      2. Bert Brijs‏ @BertBrijs 19 May 2016
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        that's another way of saying there's no such thing as management science nor scientific decision making #ba4bi

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      3. Marc Milgrom  🇺🇸‏ @cookedinwine 19 May 2016
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        No, it's saying that it isn't unbiased. You can scientifically optimize to an outcome, rather than guess, but it's biased

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