@jonathanstray But, ah, they don't just care. They also want deniability of not having considered the variable. I see that a lot.
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@jonathanstray That's why I picked it as example. "oh, it was the computer, not us" shouldn't be okay, especially with such basic stuff.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jonathanstray (PS, it would have taken them two CSV files—one with their zipcodes, one with census data—and one day to figure this out).1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jonathanstray Their response—expanding the service—suggests they don't want to be caught being exclusionary, while their behavior (hiding +1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jonathanstray ..behind not considering variables) suggests they'd do it if not exposed. So there you go.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jonathanstray And my concern is this correlate business is much deeper than obvious ones like race. There will be decisions without +1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jonathanstray ..consideration unless we adopt a stance of probing what otherwise looks opaque, deliberately or not. That's my beef.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jonathanstray I don't think there is any contention that race is important. And here, they made a computation that correlated with race+2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@jonathanstray ..didn't bother checking, hid behind "we didn't use that variable" defense, and retreated when someone else did the checking.
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@jonathanstray ^"any controversy that race is important". Race is important, they knew it, used "didn't use it in computation" as defense.0 replies 0 retweets 0 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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