@zeynep @emptywheel TOS/IP are huge, but I don't think that means easing scrutiny of biz following laws in diff nations (presence aside)
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@Matt_Cagle@zeynep@emptywheel Those laws exert pressure on decisions to expand and enforce TOSs, after all.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel My political sense (from Turkey) is that "we defy your laws, but obey US/EU laws" is not effective or sustainable.+1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel And "censored by govt request" rarely seems to be an impediment to diffusion. TOS account takedowns are real though.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel And hate speech laws (in Europe) look odd to Americans but American IP law looks crazy to rest of world.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel I don't think there is global consensus to be ruled by US law only. I am worried about FB law aka TOS plus opacity.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel FB takes stuff down all the time including political content. Some defensible some not but always unaccountable.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel I see FB takedowns as having real effects, unlike government takedown requests which are .. meh. Not good but meh.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@zeynep@emptywheel@emptywheel Agree, we've been calling for TOS takedown demands in transparency rpts. Essential.https://www.aclunc.org/blog/hey-social-networks-real-transparency-means-explaining-all-content-removals …1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel Yep. It's where censorship that means something is, for now. In Turkey FB & Twitter staying open is a plus, for now.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@Matt_Cagle @emptywheel That's why I'm wary of calls for them to fully and openly defy Turkey's laws, as problematic as they are.
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