@Matt_Cagle @emptywheel Hmm. "Given an inch they take a mile" doesn't really work online. That's not the government tactic most of the time.
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel I don't support political censorship, obviously, but item take-downs have little to no effect. Accounts, some.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel It's demonization of medium, tight control of mass media, punishing a few high-profile dissidents etc. that works.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@zeynep@emptywheel Censorship may not be the most effective tool, but it's a tool. Companies can (not always) choose to provide it, or not.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel Do you think the world would be less censored if they defied laws, and got shut down? Including in the US?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel US intellectual property censorship (that's what it is) makes little sense, hard to defend. Should FB defy that law?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel I share unease about intermediary censorship. But real issue is often TOS, IP etc. not government legal requests.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@zeynep@emptywheel TOS/IP are huge, but I don't think that means easing scrutiny of biz following laws in diff nations (presence aside)1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@zeynep@emptywheel Those laws exert pressure on decisions to expand and enforce TOSs, after all.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel My political sense (from Turkey) is that "we defy your laws, but obey US/EU laws" is not effective or sustainable.+1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
@Matt_Cagle @emptywheel And "censored by govt request" rarely seems to be an impediment to diffusion. TOS account takedowns are real though.
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel And hate speech laws (in Europe) look odd to Americans but American IP law looks crazy to rest of world.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Matt_Cagle@emptywheel I don't think there is global consensus to be ruled by US law only. I am worried about FB law aka TOS plus opacity.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes - Show replies
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