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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2016
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      @thegrugq @SteveBellovin But how long before terrorists realize then can open closed loops on purpose? Comes down to sophistication again.

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    2. thaddeus e. grugq‏ @thegrugq 21 Mar 2016
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      @zeynep @SteveBellovin they'll just required all SIM cards are registered w/ a gov ID and it'll add enough metadata to trace burner clusters

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2016
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      @thegrugq @SteveBellovin Well, so, that's what Turkey does (as does many European countries). Only an obstacle, not an absolute wall.

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    4. thaddeus e. grugq‏ @thegrugq 21 Mar 2016
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      @zeynep @SteveBellovin the point is that it increases logistics costs and allows tracing threads after eg detecting a burner closed loop

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2016
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      @thegrugq @SteveBellovin How long before they realize they can purposefully open that loop? Wrong numbers, etc?

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    6. thaddeus e. grugq‏ @thegrugq 21 Mar 2016
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      @zeynep not really that important. They will move to another comms solution when they need to. Surveillance alone doesn't defeat terrorism.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2016
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      @thegrugq I agree. Why I focus on the sophistication displayed. If there exists: sophistication and numbers; there will exist: workaround.

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    8. thaddeus e. grugq‏ @thegrugq 21 Mar 2016
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      @zeynep my guess is: they used open codes, slang, fast flux phase shifting burner networks, & it was all pointless cause no one was looking

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2016
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      @thegrugq I certainly hope you are right. The lack of sophistication so far has been striking, and very lucky for us. Another issue is +

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2016
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      @thegrugq ISIS has no standards so will happily take petty criminals. Petty criminals are better at OPSEC than your lifelong true zealot.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2016

      @thegrugq As with most terrorism worth worrying about, this is mostly going to depend on how deep the pool, and how alienated/angry.

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        2. thaddeus e. grugq‏ @thegrugq 21 Mar 2016
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          @zeynep yup. That’s more important than their security practices.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2016
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          @thegrugq As far as I can tell: US pool, basically shallow to none. Unhinged adults, few teens. Europe: much deeper due to history.

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