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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2016
      Replying to @bhpascal

      @bhpascal @normative @SteveBellovin No! Germany beat Russia on the eastern front in the first month of WWI because Russia screwed that up.

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    2. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 1 Mar 2016
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      @zeynep @bhpascal @normative One-time pads? In August 1914? Citation, please! They did screw up their crypto, but I doubt it was OTPs.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2016
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      @SteveBellovin @bhpascal @normative Actually, it's a great example of difference between public key and old-style cryptography/secrecy.. +

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2016
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      @SteveBellovin @bhpascal @normative They couldn't get their system to all three divisions; communicated in plain; Germans fished in barrel.+

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    5. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 1 Mar 2016
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      @zeynep @bhpascal @normative Right, that was what I remembered.

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    6. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 1 Mar 2016
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      @SteveBellovin @zeynep @bhpascal @normative I ask because I've done research on OTP history; there is a rumor that Russia did have it early

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2016
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      @SteveBellovin @bhpascal @normative I will find the citation; not sure if it was OTP or not but the issue was getting a pad to a place.

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    8. [S] Netochka Nezvanova‏ @NetNezva 1 Mar 2016
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      @zeynep @SteveBellovin @bhpascal @normative IIRC, the issue was a codebook and new ciphers, not a pad.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2016
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      @NetNezva @SteveBellovin @bhpascal @normative You may well be right; though same issue would have been with pad. Pads need to get to places.

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    10. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 1 Mar 2016
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      @zeynep @NetNezva @bhpascal @normative Yes--that's why I said that OTPs aren't operationally usable.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2016
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      @SteveBellovin @NetNezva @bhpascal @normative Exactly! I'll try to remember/read up on what they had in the 1914 Eastern front.

      1:07 PM - 1 Mar 2016
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Mar 2016
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          @SteveBellovin @NetNezva @bhpascal @normative Whatever else; seems likely that WWI might have been but one month *had* Russians used OTP.

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        1. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 1 Mar 2016
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          @zeynep @NetNezva @bhpascal @normative Chapter 18 of Kahn describes it--really bad, even for that era, and even if they did use it well.

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