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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2015
      Replying to @harryh

      @harryh hmm. Maybe but I think they still save lives. People knowing what to do in the event of a rare but plausible crisis saves lives.

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    2. Harry Heymann  🥑‏ @harryh 2 Dec 2015
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      @zeynep If we spent all the time we spend on fire drills counseling children on how to deal with abusive parents we'd save more lives.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2015
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      @harryh I don't think they are not comparable threats. I'll still take fire etc. drills as pretty efficient.

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    4. Harry Heymann  🥑‏ @harryh 2 Dec 2015
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      @zeynep We have 50% fewer fires than 30 years ago. We should have 50% fewer fire drills.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2015
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      @harryh Well, there are thresholds. Like CPR training. Refresh often enough to remember. But school shootings are way up. Routine. :-(

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    6. Harry Heymann  🥑‏ @harryh 2 Dec 2015
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      @zeynep Less than 1 in a million chance of a child getting shot in school in a year. Risk drastically overestimated due to media saturation.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2015
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      @harryh i think they're often enough, including no-fatality ones, to justify drills. Overall, guns among leading causes of death for youth.

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    8. Harry Heymann  🥑‏ @harryh 2 Dec 2015
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      @zeynep Youth much more likely to be killed by someone they know than a random school shooter.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2015
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      @harryh Of course. But different category. Still, no rule for threshold for drills, and I think that shootings qualify at this point.

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    10. Harry Heymann  🥑‏ @harryh 2 Dec 2015
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      @zeynep It would be interesting to attempt to create a data driven risk model for making these sorts of decisions.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2015
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      @harryh It would be. Though different types of risk and different kind of drill usefulness make it hard to compare. Also liability issues.

      3:23 PM - 2 Dec 2015
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        1. Harry Heymann  🥑‏ @harryh 2 Dec 2015
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          @zeynep I wonder if more rational decision making could be used as a viable liability shield? Probably not. It should be though!

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