Seeing counterpoint, from @mathewi, @heoj and others, to @zeynep's assertions about engagement. Good debate. #TowJSVhttps://twitter.com/mathewi/status/664834702017073152 …
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Replying to @EricCarvin
@EricCarvin@zeynep: Yes, I get the point she was making now I think. It's about more than just Facebook-style engagement i.e. clicks, likes2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @mathewi
@mathewi@EricCarvin@heoj I meant it's not "the" value, but it's "a" value. Turkish doesn't distinguish definite and indefinite articles.
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Replying to @zeynep
@mathewi@EricCarvin@heoj Also the "metrics" don't just fall from the sky, how you define and and how you structure environment matter.1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes -
Replying to @zeynep
@zeynep@EricCarvin@heoj: Yes, totally agree. I jumped to a conclusion based on a tweet, which is almost always wrong :-)2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @mathewi
@mathewi@EricCarvin@heoj I misstated it a bit. I'm ALL for getting read, but also doing some long-tail things anyway because ... values.3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @zeynep
@mathewi@EricCarvin@heoj Long debate for journalists anyway...They want to sell papers and get read but they cover unpopular things too.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @zeynep
@mathewi@EricCarvin@heoj One difference here the platforms influence and measure what engagement. It's not an endogenous variable...2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @zeynep
@zeynep@mathewi@EricCarvin Larger point, natch, is that engagement means many things. However it's defined, it's core to journalism, IMHO.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@heoj @mathewi @EricCarvin My point is if your algo measures "likes" & your site only allows "likes" your measure is... not just engagement.
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