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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2015

      Some folks hate the word "algorithm" to mean roughly "complex computational processes that mediate experience" but... language evolves. #lrt

      3 replies 8 retweets 16 likes
    2. Mali Akmanalp‏ @makmanalp 22 Jun 2015
      Replying to @zeynep

      @zeynep a bit more frustrating in academia where precision matters, and that verbiage makes me doubt whether the person knows their stuff.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Blaine Cook‏ @blaine 22 Jun 2015
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      @makmanalp @zeynep if the reading of someone's argument rests on the precise use of a single word, then the argument isn't being read.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Mali Akmanalp‏ @makmanalp 22 Jun 2015
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      @blaine @zeynep I disagree!See"terrorism" and how the reading of laws change badly, or how thespians find older, forgotten meanings of words

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    5. Blaine Cook‏ @blaine 22 Jun 2015
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      @makmanalp @zeynep but the use of "terrorism" (or not) is problematic not because of language per-se, but because it's used as a weapon.

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    6. Mali Akmanalp‏ @makmanalp 22 Jun 2015
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      @blaine @zeynep any word has similar potential. "Algorithms" are reading your email, "Algorithms" choose what content you see

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    7. Mali Akmanalp‏ @makmanalp 22 Jun 2015
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      @blaine @zeynep "Algorithms" know you're gay before you do, "Algorithms" know what you do! It takes away responsibility from programmers.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2015
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      @makmanalp @blaine Yes, language functions as such, including to obscure the process. Hopefully, point of good writing is the opposite.

      8:28 AM - 22 Jun 2015
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2015
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          @makmanalp @blaine Problem is the "algorithm" doesn't just do what programmers will in their own heads, as anyone who ever debugs knows. :-)

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2015
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          @makmanalp @blaine So issue is how to communicate complexity, and evolve the definition towards the best reflection of underlying reality.

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        1. Mali Akmanalp‏ @makmanalp 22 Jun 2015
          Replying to @zeynep

          @zeynep @blaine defining your word before the meat of your argument solves the prescriptivist - descriptivist argument nicely, I think.

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