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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @jilliancyork

      @jilliancyork But there is a a question of sovereignty here and we disagree. I find extra-territoriality to be a problem.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @zeynep

      @zeynep But you might want to ask some folks outside Turkey; I’ve literally never met a dissident who shares your views.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @jilliancyork

      @jilliancyork Have you noticed vast majorities of people vote? It's not just repression. People want to have voice over their laws.

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    4. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @zeynep

      @zeynep Have you noticed how laws and constitutions often fail to protect minorities? I mean, seriously.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @jilliancyork

      @jilliancyork Have you noticed how lack of laws and constitutions are even worse for minorities and dissidents?

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    6. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @zeynep

      @zeynep Sure - I mean, we agree on the problem, I just think your solution is weak and somewhat lacking in politics.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @jilliancyork

      @jilliancyork You'll be shocked to know that I think the same about your approach? Non-compliance feels like shrugging soldiers.

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    8. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 6 Apr 2015
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      @zeynep Funny thing about jurisdiction, eh?

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @jilliancyork

      @jilliancyork Let me ask you this: who should have say about what happens on these platforms given how consequential they are?

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    10. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @zeynep

      @zeynep For now, a government should block them if they lack jurisdiction. In my ideal world - that’s way bigger than 140 ;)

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2015
      Replying to @jilliancyork

      @jilliancyork In my ideal world, people should fix their laws, we should create supra-national institutions, and corps should obey laws.

      3:00 PM - 6 Apr 2015
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        2. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 6 Apr 2015
          Replying to @zeynep

          @zeynep My ideal’s too complicated. But if you believe in sovereignty for now, then blocking is the appropriate remedy.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2015
          Replying to @jilliancyork

          @jilliancyork I believe lack of sovereignty, and unchecked corporate power, is worse. I'm echoing @rmack here, but with a twist.

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        2. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 6 Apr 2015
          Replying to @zeynep

          @zeynep And legally speaking, I’m correct. A US company is not obliged to censor in Turkey. Turkey is, however, permitted to censor company.

          3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        3. Cocus‏ @cocus 6 Apr 2015
          Replying to @jilliancyork

          @jilliancyork @zeynep wouldn't it be nice if that (among everything else) was clearly outlined in local versions of ToS agreements? ;)

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        2. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 6 Apr 2015
          Replying to @zeynep

          @zeynep (assuming they’re sans office, for the pedants that will jump on that tweet)

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2015
          Replying to @jilliancyork

          @jilliancyork So, in this particular instance, I get the legal technical definition of how you can construe that but..

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        2. Aral Balkan, a screeching voice of the minority‏ @aral 7 Apr 2015
          Replying to @zeynep

          @zeynep This. So. Entirely. This. +@jilliancyork

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        3. Jillian C. York‏Verified account @jilliancyork 7 Apr 2015
          Replying to @aral

          @aral @zeynep on the broader point I agree, but think censorship is a funny mantle on which to make this argument.

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        1. Aral Balkan, a screeching voice of the minority‏ @aral 7 Apr 2015
          Replying to @zeynep

          @zeynep e.g., What Twitter *pretends* to be (a public sphere) can actually only be created by a supra-national institution. +@jilliancyork

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