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    1. Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD‏Verified account @PeterHotez 14h14 hours ago

      Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD Retweeted Ali Velshi

      Guess I need to watch the full interview but the reality is: 1) mRNA boosters do not have this performance feature, certainly not vs omicron, 2) you cannot scale mRNA to the level needed for global vaccinations, 3) there are better vaccines for this purpose and global healthhttps://twitter.com/alivelshi/status/1480214782779314182 …

      Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD added,

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      Ali VelshiVerified account @AliVelshi
      “If you can reduce the risk of getting infected with delta or omicron, you reduce variants. If you do that, we stop having these waves of disease. “ @s_keshavjee on his new study that shows only mRNA vaccines can bring about the end of this pandemic. #Velshi pic.twitter.com/RY482LTzAA
      46 replies 83 retweets 377 likes
    2. Joe Bak-Coleman‏ @jbakcoleman 10h10 hours ago
      Replying to @PeterHotez

      COI Disclosure: [Insert COI disclosure here] It's one thing to push your vaccine, but lets not throw other life-saving tech under the bus in the process.

      1 reply 1 retweet 21 likes
    3. Joris Meys‏ @JorisMeys 8h8 hours ago
      Replying to @jbakcoleman @PeterHotez

      To be fair, he's responding to someone who's claiming that "only mRNA vaccines can bring an end to this pandemic." It's not bcs they perform better than AZ vaccine, that mRNA vaccines are intrinsically better, cfr. CureVac. And regarding scaling: why did 3rd world receive so few?

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    4. Joe Bak-Coleman‏ @jbakcoleman 8h8 hours ago
      Replying to @JorisMeys @PeterHotez

      LMIC haven't had mRNA in large quantities because of a lack of political will, not some inherent property of mRNA vaccines.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Joris Meys‏ @JorisMeys 8h8 hours ago
      Replying to @jbakcoleman @PeterHotez

      That and cold storage. Btw, I didn't read Hortez as "don't use mRNA" but as "don't diss other options that have proven to be far more valuable for 3rd world countries so far". He has a point there. "Only use (expensive, patented and fragile) mRNA" is not what 3rd world needs

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7h7 hours ago
      Replying to @JorisMeys @jbakcoleman

      Many poorer countries have sufficient infrastructure for dealing with cold-storage, and more experience than us in distributing such vaccines. Cold chain requirements would not be much of an issue if we distributed the vaccines equitably globally. Very solvable if not solved.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Joris Meys‏ @JorisMeys 7h7 hours ago
      Replying to @zeynep @jbakcoleman

      I didn't say it's impossible. I said it's an extra hurdle. mRNA vaccines aren't going to appear in sufficient amounts for the entire world in the coming year either. That's why it's silly to claim only mRNA and no other vaccines are helpful. Hortez rightfully objects to that.

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    8. Joe Bak-Coleman‏ @jbakcoleman 7h7 hours ago
      Replying to @JorisMeys @zeynep

      I'd rather have us invest in mRNA or existing vaccines than try to reroute that energy/effort/funding towards a vaccine pushed by Hotez with no publicly available data, which is the subtext of his comments.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Joris Meys‏ @JorisMeys 7h7 hours ago
      Replying to @jbakcoleman @zeynep

      And why exactly are we objecting to the only patent-free vaccine to date? In a perfect world we all had an updated mRNA vaccine for multiple variants available. Right now it looks those protein subunit vaccines are doing more for poor countries than mRNA will the coming years.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7h7 hours ago
      Replying to @JorisMeys @jbakcoleman

      I'm absolutely *not* objecting to any vaccine, let alone a patent-free one. I look forward to public data on it, especially since it's crucial for a vaccine aimed at poorer countries to be proven to be equal or superior to existing vaccines. Otherwise, catastrophic for trust.

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        1. Joris Meys‏ @JorisMeys 6h6 hours ago
          Replying to @zeynep @jbakcoleman

          I reacted to Joe, but ok... So we do agree Hotez didn't throw anything under the bus and Keshavee was wrong claiming mRNA vaccines are the only ones that can stop the pandemic?

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