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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois Jan 6

      Prof Francois Balloux Retweeted Scott Latham, PhD

      A great thread, thought-provoking, thoughtful and empathetic.https://twitter.com/ScoLatham/status/1476637010727161867 …

      Prof Francois Balloux added,

      Scott Latham, PhD @ScoLatham
      It is fashionable to cast aspersions on the working class as as uneducated, ill informed group when looking at their behavior during COVID, e.g., vaccinations, masks. Yet, it has more to do with their lived experience relative to risk – thread – (1/x) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/24/briefing/vaccination-class-gap-us.html …
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      64 replies 119 retweets 714 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois

      Except it has almost nothing to do with the reality of the kinds of work people with less education do in the United States. One, it’s almost all service sector, not climbing on stairs you may fall from. Two, construction workers etc. is exactly where it is better regulated.

      10 replies 2 retweets 80 likes
    3. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep

      I disagree. First, there are jobs that remain inherently more risky, whatever regulations may be in place. Second, the thread is fundamentally about the (perceived) relative risk of covid. If one's life expectancy is not that high anyway, Covid may well feel less threatening.

      6 replies 0 retweets 56 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois

      For average lesser educated worker in the US in the service sector there is no question that Covid is the highest risk they face at work. They are cashiers not fly fishers. Even in construction, his numbers do not work—fatality rate is 10 out of every 100,000, lower than Covid.

      5 replies 0 retweets 30 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois

      And I find the idea that people with lower life expectancy due to structural factors are therefore less worried about other risks in their lives under their own control because of relative risk perception to be without any evidence. Doesn’t make sense. Like why?

      12 replies 0 retweets 24 likes
    6. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep

      It makes a lot of sense to me that people who have experienced hardship and death may not consider Covid as the sole threat to their lives. But then, I may not have had the typical upbringing, and career path, of the 'standard academic'.

      3 replies 1 retweet 59 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois

      Why would they dismiss the threat of Covid because of hardship or death in their lives? I have as far away from a standard academic life or career path as you can likely imagine but why would I think "oh, I didn't die as a teenager therefore I'm not gonna wear a seatbelt now"?

      3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois

      The unvaccinated being poor/uneducated in the US is almost certainly due to lack of trust in the medical system and the institutions of science, and not because they have made some rational risk calculation and decided COVID is small risk—it is a very big risk to them, in fact.

      6 replies 0 retweets 28 likes
    9. Devin's Latex Gimp‏ @climbingfetish Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois

      I have a pretty big family: 35 cousins on my father's side, all from a rural background. I've talked to them, and others, and I think I know how they think. They think that these vaccines are a greater risk than the disease, and they're quite explicit about it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Devin's Latex Gimp‏ @climbingfetish Jan 6
      Replying to @climbingfetish @zeynep @BallouxFrancois

      They're all being told that "the virus has a 99% survival rate", which is wrong because it's oversimplified, but yes they absolutely do downplay that risk.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @climbingfetish @BallouxFrancois

      Yeah I totally believe that constituency exists, they show up in research a lot, but what's happening there isn't rational risk calculation relative to rest of their lives. It's that they've been told vaccines are highly-risky (false) and the virus is almost no risk (also false).

      4:13 PM - 6 Jan 2022
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