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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois Jan 6

      Prof Francois Balloux Retweeted Scott Latham, PhD

      A great thread, thought-provoking, thoughtful and empathetic.https://twitter.com/ScoLatham/status/1476637010727161867 …

      Prof Francois Balloux added,

      Scott Latham, PhD @ScoLatham
      It is fashionable to cast aspersions on the working class as as uneducated, ill informed group when looking at their behavior during COVID, e.g., vaccinations, masks. Yet, it has more to do with their lived experience relative to risk – thread – (1/x) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/24/briefing/vaccination-class-gap-us.html …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois

      Except it has almost nothing to do with the reality of the kinds of work people with less education do in the United States. One, it’s almost all service sector, not climbing on stairs you may fall from. Two, construction workers etc. is exactly where it is better regulated.

      10 replies 2 retweets 80 likes
    3. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep

      I disagree. First, there are jobs that remain inherently more risky, whatever regulations may be in place. Second, the thread is fundamentally about the (perceived) relative risk of covid. If one's life expectancy is not that high anyway, Covid may well feel less threatening.

      6 replies 0 retweets 56 likes
    4. pink mcdonald's‏ @sugarandaspirin Jan 6
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois @zeynep

      This seems silly. I grew up working class; my dad did construction work. He was always careful at work and likewise w/ COVID. But I knew a lot of reckless people who also put their children in danger (e.g., not putting them in carseats). I doubt this was due to life expectancy.

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    5. pink mcdonald's‏ @sugarandaspirin Jan 6
      Replying to @sugarandaspirin @BallouxFrancois @zeynep

      Seems massively unempathetic to say that the poor don't mind dying as much when plenty of them are clearly worried about the threat of COVID (and raise children who don't get to make their own choices).

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. pink mcdonald's‏ @sugarandaspirin Jan 6
      Replying to @sugarandaspirin @BallouxFrancois @zeynep

      I knew several adults growing up who ended up dying as a result of risky behavior (not inherently risky activities, just doing activities unsafely). If you ever called them out on this stuff before they died their only response was an angry "it'll be fine, don't worry so much."

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    7. pink mcdonald's‏ @sugarandaspirin Jan 6
      Replying to @sugarandaspirin @BallouxFrancois @zeynep

      They were not making any kind of conscious decision; they had whatever personality type makes their upper middle class and rich counterparts jump out of airplanes and do other risky, thrillseeking shit.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @sugarandaspirin @BallouxFrancois

      Yep! Wall Street, tech & the university faculty in the United States are high-education and overwhelmingly vaccinated, and have a substantial subsection very into high-risk sports, where parachuting is pretty tame. "I live long therefore lemme avoid risk and vice versa" isn't it.

      3:39 PM - 6 Jan 2022
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        1. pink mcdonald's‏ @sugarandaspirin Jan 6
          Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois

          Exactly. I don't pretend to know exactly why there is such a vaccination divide (perhaps formal education/culture/institutional trust), but I do know plenty of wealthy people from college who played rugby, went skydiving, & did drugs while hiking in treacherous national parks.

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