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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois Jan 6

      Prof Francois Balloux Retweeted Scott Latham, PhD

      A great thread, thought-provoking, thoughtful and empathetic.https://twitter.com/ScoLatham/status/1476637010727161867 …

      Prof Francois Balloux added,

      Scott Latham, PhD @ScoLatham
      It is fashionable to cast aspersions on the working class as as uneducated, ill informed group when looking at their behavior during COVID, e.g., vaccinations, masks. Yet, it has more to do with their lived experience relative to risk – thread – (1/x) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/24/briefing/vaccination-class-gap-us.html …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois

      Except it has almost nothing to do with the reality of the kinds of work people with less education do in the United States. One, it’s almost all service sector, not climbing on stairs you may fall from. Two, construction workers etc. is exactly where it is better regulated.

      10 replies 2 retweets 80 likes
    3. Benjamin Ryan‏Verified account @benryanwriter Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois

      Indeed. He paints this population as mostly at risk due to non-Covid-factors tied to their jobs (eg: accidents). But in fact, for someone working at a grocery store, their main on-the-job risk would probably be Covid--a risk much higher than for white-collar college educated folx

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @benryanwriter @BallouxFrancois

      It’s not like we don’t have data on this. The highest at-risk occupation for Covid deaths was line cook. Service workers have been dying in droves. Covid is absolutely the highest risk they face at work, by far. I can do the back of the envelope calculation but it’s pretty clear.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep @benryanwriter @BallouxFrancois

      It’s pretty clear education is significant but it’s not because it feeds into the kind of work people do which then feeds into their relative risk assessment. That may be a tiny path for a few, but no. The overall numbers absolutely do not work for this theory as a key explainer.

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    6. Benjamin Ryan‏Verified account @benryanwriter Jan 6
      Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois

      I found it strange that the author of the thread utterly dismissed education as a factor that affects people's capacity to conduct a sound risk/benefit calculus with regards to receiving a Covid vaccine. Seriously? Scientific literacy counts for nothing at all?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
      Replying to @benryanwriter @BallouxFrancois

      I think interactions with the medical system—usually terrible for the poorer people in the United States—and trust in science and institutions play a key role.

      3:16 PM - 6 Jan 2022
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        2. Benjamin Ryan‏Verified account @benryanwriter Jan 6
          Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois

          Yes, in particular among African Americans, given the toxic legacy of Tuskegee as well as myriad personal negative experiences. This is a key reason why I implore people to be more empathetic about people's reasons for being vaccine hesitant.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 6
          Replying to @benryanwriter @BallouxFrancois

          I don’t think you need history even. The medical system in the United States *now* is a disgrace for all but a few, and pretty terrible for poorer and/minority people.

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