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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Matt Darling  🌐 💸 🌇‏ @besttrousers 28 Dec 2021

      Matt Darling  🌐 💸 🌇 Retweeted Glenn Greenwald

      This understanding has become the conventional wisdom, but doesn't make much sense to me. 1.) By June, it was fairly well established the outdoor activity was low risk. 2.) There were not any outbreaks associated with BLM protests.https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1475825263732834306 …

      Matt Darling  🌐 💸 🌇 added,

      Glenn GreenwaldVerified account @ggreenwald
      This was a pivotal moment in the pandemic's history: For 4 months, the message was clear and unrelenting: everyone must stay home. Those who leave - even to go to a deserted beach - are reckless sociopaths. It flipped overnight to endorse a mass protest movement liberals liked: https://twitter.com/politico/status/1269449023649452032 …
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    2. George Callas‏ @George_A_Callas 28 Dec 2021
      Replying to @besttrousers

      Because you are wrong about (1). In June, public health “experts” and the MSM were *simultaneously* endorsing protests as safe and *condemning* other outdoor gatherings as reckless. Hell, NFL stadiums were mostly empty months later when football season started.

      5 replies 0 retweets 31 likes
    3. Matt Darling  🌐 💸 🌇‏ @besttrousers 28 Dec 2021
      Replying to @George_A_Callas

      I think you have to be careful how experts is defined (as your quotations indicate). I was doing stuff outdoors with friends in May. @zeynep's "Open the beaches" op-ed was in April.

      4 replies 0 retweets 39 likes
    4. Jason Kerwin‏ @jt_kerwin 28 Dec 2021
      Replying to @besttrousers @George_A_Callas @zeynep

      Zeynep has been right about basically everything but she’s not the voice of the public health consensus. She’s had to convince mainstream public health folks to change their minds over and over.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Matt Darling  🌐 💸 🌇‏ @besttrousers 29 Dec 2021
      Replying to @jt_kerwin @George_A_Callas @zeynep

      Who was arguing she was wrong about this in May? I was having parties in my backyard on the basis of that argument.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Reginald Glenn  ♨️‏ @Britonomist 29 Dec 2021
      Replying to @besttrousers @jt_kerwin and

      Reminder this was happening in May, with the guardian referring to him as ‘the most sane man around’.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/07/florida-grim-reaper-beach-interview …

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Matt Darling  🌐 💸 🌇‏ @besttrousers 29 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Britonomist @jt_kerwin and

      My recollection is everyone thought he was crazy. I certainly did! What was your understanding in May?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Reginald Glenn  ♨️‏ @Britonomist 29 Dec 2021
      Replying to @besttrousers @jt_kerwin and

      Not my recollection at all (and clearly the Guardian didn’t think so). Also in the UK at the time even outdoors we were discouraged from meeting anyone outside of our ‘bubble’ and were told to try to stay 6 ft apart at all times.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Britonomist @besttrousers and

      He was widely celebrated both on traditional media and on social media, unfortunately.

      5:00 AM - 29 Dec 2021
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