But we clearly are in lockstep on aerosols. Prior to omicron I'd say that aerosol transmission might have been a major but *perhaps* not dominant mode of transmission. With omicron I'm satisfied that the vast majority of transmission must be airborne.
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Replying to @Merz @nausheenrshah and
so you get to say you were right before about it not being airborne, now using the transmissibility of O to save face and all of a sudden NOW it’s airborne. Just admit you were wrong the first time. Lots of people were wrong. Like you!
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Replying to @marer_stephen @Merz and
I don’t mind the walk-back, the scientists who were making these points from the earliest should, at a minimum, get people to be polite to them and appreciate how much crap they endured—actually owed an apology. Being wrong *and* condescending into almost 2022. That isn’t okay.
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Replying to @zeynep @marer_stephen and
Alex isn’t a good foil for you or a “walk back.” He hasn’t been arguing against airborne. The misconception I object to is one widely held among public & even some “experts” : that SARS2 infectivity doesn’t decay with distance & time from a point source. It’s a virus. Not magic.
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Replying to @macroliter @marer_stephen and
Once again, debate has been the *predominant*/major mode, not incidental airborne, only AGP-airborne, only rarely-airborne. It matters because it corresponds to different mitigations. Anyway, honestly the points about infectivity, decay, half-life… Tons of papers. All covered.
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Replying to @zeynep @macroliter and
No point to keep going at it on a thread. *Many* papers, lots of progress & acknowledgement—more to be done. Anyway, people who worked on this from the earliest days made all these points. They deserve, at a minimum, civility. The apology, too, will come, but that’s for history.
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Replying to @zeynep @macroliter and
I look forward to the forced recantations.
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Replying to @Merz @macroliter and
We’ll take correct mitigations and a straightforward explanation of why, so people can protect themselves best, and resources into ventilation and better masks, and not to plexiglass, that’s all. It’s a pandemic. Some of us recognize there’s more than one’s ego at stake.
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Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez Retweeted Soumya Swaminathan
Well today the
@WHO Chief Scientist is saying that COVID is an **airborne virus**. So maybe there isn't so much debate any more?https://twitter.com/doctorsoumya/status/1473522579096752128 …Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez added,
Soumya SwaminathanVerified account @doctorsoumyaWearing good quality, well fitting masks, ensuring good ventilation if indoors, maintaining distance & being vaccinated are the best ways to protect against this airborne virus.#OmicronVariant is very transmissible & we all need to be extra careful now@DrTedros@PeterASinger https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1473387274159149063 …4 replies 33 retweets 106 likes -
Replying to @jljcolorado @Merz and
It is great progress, too bad took almost two years. My wish is for them to say this loudly, not just on tweets, and explain it plainly because we have two years misimpressions—billions spent on plexiglass, little understanding of mask quality issues, no systematic use of HEPA…
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If this is where we started, or quickly pivoted, a loud correction or explanation would not be necessary. But as we’ve repeatedly observed, countries around the world are *still* spending money on the wrong things, and people remain badly confused about the risk dynamics.
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Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez Retweeted Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez
Indeed, the list of extremely bad examples worldwide that do not work for an airborne virus is never ending. I am up to 83!https://twitter.com/jljcolorado/status/1473726238174990343?t=1h6tCHb5F2OZUmCMnUEhfQ&s=19 …
Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez added,
Prof. Jose-Luis JimenezVerified account @jljcolorado81/ FINLAND: Director of Dept. of Health Security at Finnish CDC (@mika_salminen of@THLresearch) in a singing event without masks as AIRBORNE (https://twitter.com/jljcolorado/status/1473684059188572167 …) omicron spread like wildfire Setting a HORRIBLE example https://areena.yle.fi/1-50910194 https://twitter.com/ailment73/status/1470428704706867209 … pic.twitter.com/Ayc36SB1FVShow this thread8 replies 23 retweets 96 likes -
Replying to @jljcolorado @zeynep and
And totally agree with your other points
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