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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @marer_stephen @Merz and

      I don’t mind the walk-back, the scientists who were making these points from the earliest should, at a minimum, get people to be polite to them and appreciate how much crap they endured—actually owed an apology. Being wrong *and* condescending into almost 2022. That isn’t okay.

      1 reply 6 retweets 80 likes
    2. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @marer_stephen and

      Alex isn’t a good foil for you or a “walk back.” He hasn’t been arguing against airborne. The misconception I object to is one widely held among public & even some “experts” : that SARS2 infectivity doesn’t decay with distance & time from a point source. It’s a virus. Not magic.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @zeynep and

      Jeremy Kamil Retweeted World Health Organization (WHO)

      In fact WHO seems pretty on target 🎯 with their recent messaging. Hope you agree. 👇https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1473387274159149063 …

      Jeremy Kamil added,

      2:19
      World Health Organization (WHO)Verified account @WHO
      How does #COVID19 spread? What are some modes of transmission? What can you do to protect yourself? @DrMikeRyan explains. pic.twitter.com/y2NLTvBtj1
      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @marer_stephen and

      Yes, definitely better but still convoluted. Direct phrasing is better, and a correction cannot be whispered. The frustration is how long it took to get even here I’ve literally been in meetings with them where similar language had been proposed as phrasing. LONG AGO.

      3 replies 2 retweets 42 likes
    5. Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez‏Verified account @jljcolorado 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @macroliter and

      It is progress but also gaslighting that they've said it all along. I was on the meeting where the @WHO experts yelled at us for suggesting airborne, and told us instead to "wash our hands fanatically".

      4 replies 8 retweets 82 likes
    6. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @jljcolorado @zeynep and

      I get the sense that you’re somehow disappointed that they aren’t still insisting it’s droplets and hand washing. That you’d be happier and feel more important if they were still “gaslighting”. Again, the sanctimony is rich in the air.

      4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez‏Verified account @jljcolorado 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @zeynep and

      They ARE still gaslighting. And the real problem is that it communicates that no big changes in mitigations are needed since "it is the same they said all along"

      3 replies 1 retweet 42 likes
    8. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @jljcolorado @zeynep and

      What’s your h-index again?

      5 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @jljcolorado and

      Okay I have no idea what this dig was about so I looked. It’s 132!!! I don’t care as much about these things, but that is incredible for someone not even near retirement. Jeremy, honestly, thank you. I really had no idea.pic.twitter.com/5WWiWC2mHg

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    10. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      Clearly you’re an h-index fangirl. What was Kati Kariko’s in 2018? What does it really mean? I’m sorry but I actually couldn’t care less.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @jljcolorado and

      *You* brought it up. I thought it was some weakness or something? You used it like a dig, so I checked. Before you mentioned it, I didn’t care to the degree I had no idea, despite collaborating with him for a long time. How dare he have a high H-index?  😂

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        2. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 21 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

          I’m mocking that he is literally so arrogant he put it in his Twitter bio.. something others have pointed out. SMH.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez‏Verified account @jljcolorado 21 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macroliter @zeynep and

          I put it there bc people were ignoring us & @WHO was yelling at us & the press refused to discuss it. So people kept dying from airborne virus that @WHO refused to acknowledge was airborne. Eventually we overcame that, so I removed it. Don't assume you know other's motivations

          1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
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