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    1. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Merz @nausheenrshah and

      And we are 100% (or nearly so) in agreement re. broadly deployed mitigations.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Prof. *Dr.* Nausheen R. Shah‏ @nausheenrshah 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Merz @jljcolorado and

      Ok. But again with the qualifier!! What do you not agree with?

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    3. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @nausheenrshah @jljcolorado and

      I think we might disagree about the importance of droplet mitigations *in addition* to aerosol mitigations (some of which overlap) in congregate and clinical settings. I don't think the half-assed droplet mitigations in, e.g., supermarkets, can make any difference at all.

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    4. Prof. *Dr.* Nausheen R. Shah‏ @nausheenrshah 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Merz @jljcolorado and

      You mean face screens/plexiglass barriers? In clinical settings I see value in face screens. But generally plexiglass barriers are bad idea. They tend to accumulate stuff behind them (fluid dynamics). There's a bunch of CFD visuals for that, but also similar effect as snow banks

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Prof. *Dr.* Nausheen R. Shah‏ @nausheenrshah 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @nausheenrshah @Merz and

      So OMG I think we're actually in 💯 agreement here 🎉

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @nausheenrshah @Merz and

      Which makes what Kim and the others have been saying the whole time correct. The WHO committees literally yelled at them, and a whole bunch of scientists, who had gathered to politely to point all this out. But yeah, physics is physics.

      2 replies 4 retweets 17 likes
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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @nausheenrshah and

      She was talking about pollution, and a quote got bungled afai. Let’s say that’s her biggest sin. At the same time, WHO was denying airborne transmission outside of hospital AP and opposing masks. WHO did not recommend universal masks indoors till December 2020, because droplets.

      2 replies 2 retweets 13 likes
    9. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @nausheenrshah and

      No doctrine of infallibility in science. Despite the significant missteps you refer to (which Fauci himself initially echoed), I don’t see the WHO as a problem. Droplets are clearly not the only mode of transmission but what “airborne” means IRL is widely misunderstood, too.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @nausheenrshah and

      Of course WHO was one problem. They had the wrong science far past the accumulation of evidence made it clear they should reconsider, shut out and literally yelled at scientists who were explaining things correctly, and had the wrong bundle of mitigations and priorities for long.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @macroliter and

      I’m happy to see the walkbacks, and the apology these people deserve will come. But, at a minimum, people who were wrong kinda up to yesterday about most basic stuff should try remaining polite, and not be condescending jerks to them. Silence, at least, if one can’t help it.

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