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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      There were elderly people in there with me, and I was the only one wearing an N95, amidst the Omicron wave in NYC and when we know elderly will have especially difficult time fending off antibody evading variants. Nobody has been explaining this to people. TWO YEARS IN.

      7 replies 4 retweets 54 likes
    2. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      Yes, N95 is better. But telling people their surgical masks or the type Dr Kuppalli was using are useless is wrong (not to mention rude). Also, I see plenty of people wearing masks below the nose. It's not because they didn't read your column but because masks are uncomfortable.

      5 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
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    4. Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez‏Verified account @jljcolorado 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @QuantumOverlord @macroliter and

      I didn't say they were useless. Gave a 50% efficiency which is not bad, and provided a peer-reviewed reference for it: And again, I criticized @WHO, not the person wearing the mask. She was a @WHO official wearing a @WHO-imprinted mask and thus representing the organizationpic.twitter.com/d14EnPDNAx

      3 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @jljcolorado @QuantumOverlord and

      Yeah, nobody has ever said surgical masks were useless. In fact, they can even be appropriate for certain settings, transmission levels, vaccination status etc. But N95 > surgical > cloth mask needs to be communicated *and* explained why, to empower people to make their choice.

      7 replies 1 retweet 26 likes
    6. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      No disagreement on importance of communicating differences between types of masks and when each might be appropriate. As to, "Nobody has ever said surgical masks were useless"... Anti-maskers and FFP2/N95 proselytizers alike say *exactly* that ALL. THE. TIME.

      4 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    7. Irène Kostenas‏ @IKostenas 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @zeynep and

      No, we say they are not good enough.

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    8. Irène Kostenas‏ @IKostenas 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @IKostenas @macroliter and

      And therefore useless.

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    9. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @IKostenas @zeynep and

      "Nobody has ever said surgical masks were useless"pic.twitter.com/HDmEvxj2vr

      4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Joe‏ @twitskeptic 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @IKostenas and

      Yes, in these kind of discussions I'm always disturbed by the lack of consideration of HUMAN NATURE. Sure, a N95 is better than cloth, but what if someone is badgered into a N95 and decides to not wear *any* kind of mask because they N95s are so uncomfortable?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @twitskeptic @macroliter and

      You are now making up more stuff. That kind of risk-compensation or second-order effects have been studied to death, in multiple areas, and they may exist in minds who never looked at the empirical evidence but like being contrarian, but people ordinarily do not behave like that.

      6:01 PM - 20 Dec 2021
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        1. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 20 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @twitskeptic and

          Yes, there's an N95 on my desk and I'll put it on before I leave. I'm quite sure it's better. But do you dispute the evidence that procedure masks lower risk, Zeynep?

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        1. Joe‏ @twitskeptic 20 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @macroliter and

          Anecdotal for sure, but I've had personal experience with this. I'm not sure how many mask denying people you know. And, BTW, references are always welcome!

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