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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @Merz and

      Jeremy Kamil Retweeted Jeffrey Tran  🪄 🕳 😓

      Yes but be careful of semantics & absolutist rhetoric. Many ppl don't understand what airborne/aerosol actually means IRL re: SARS2 spread. It's a complex topic that defies simplistic explanations. Even Carl Zimmer wisely shows the "virus in a tiny drop"https://twitter.com/jeffreytran/status/1473097037935792135?s=20 …

      Jeremy Kamil added,

      Jeffrey Tran  🪄 🕳 😓 @jeffreytran
      Replying to @jeffreytran @macroliter
      Rhetorical question: are you seeing this? Wow! https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/01/science/coronavirus-aerosol-simulation.html …
      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez‏Verified account @jljcolorado 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @macroliter @zeynep and

      I agree that many people don't understand what airborne transmission means. We have written a paper explaining common misconceptions (and another one soon-to-appear in @TheLancet as a response)https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jhin.2020.12.022 …

      2 replies 6 retweets 21 likes
    3. Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez‏Verified account @jljcolorado 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @jljcolorado @macroliter and

      This is also a good one: https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n913 …pic.twitter.com/NjBIouGf5s

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @jljcolorado @macroliter and

      I also agree on misunderstandings, why I spent so much time writing public articles on multiple aspects of this. Today, I went into a post-office, and saw these people working behind non-airtight plastic barrier with terrible masks, doors closed, no HEPA. This isn't semantics.

      3 replies 2 retweets 32 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      A correct understanding of the transmission mechanism would empower people, direct investment to correct mitigations, assuage fears, encourage outdoors (instead of stupid beach shaming) and help with other respiratory diseases. We aren't into Twitter battles for the fun of it.

      1 reply 17 retweets 78 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      There were elderly people in there with me, and I was the only one wearing an N95, amidst the Omicron wave in NYC and when we know elderly will have especially difficult time fending off antibody evading variants. Nobody has been explaining this to people. TWO YEARS IN.

      7 replies 4 retweets 54 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      The amount of money and effort spent doing incorrect mitigations like plexiglass that can increase infections when HEPA filters never sell out? When there's been no official effort to help people avoid the flood of counterfeit N95s? Nobody is upset because of personal obsession.

      2 replies 11 retweets 52 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      I do get upset when people think this is some minor obsession. It's about explaining the correct transmission mechanism, that it is airborne understood correctly, so people can better protect themselves, and we can do the best possible mitigations with our limited resources.

      3 replies 5 retweets 32 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      The science of it is very interesting, will clearly be relevant to other respiratory diseases, and I found the sociology of science aspect fascinating. But frankly, if WHO and the CDC had found a way to do the right thing, I wouldn't care if they called it tiny things you inhale.

      2 replies 1 retweet 22 likes
    10. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado and

      But why the dedication to the notion that it has to be *the* mechanism rather than *a* mechanism? There's reasonable observational evidence, for example, that hand washing is associated with decreased risk of infection.

      5 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Merz @jljcolorado and

      You need mitigations to target the most important mechanisms, and not leave them out (aerosol mitigations are often left out). Still,, I'm all for hand-washing, Do you have any evidence handwashing associated with less infection for SARS-CoV-2? I know of no paper, would love one.

      5:47 PM - 20 Dec 2021
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        2. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 20 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @Merz and

          Agree that hand washing might not be the most effective measure.. but masks are only one part of the equation, too.. rapid testing, ventilation, vaccination, et cetera. All matter. A lot.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macroliter @Merz and

          I don't think there's anyone on this thread disagreeing there, and I think most of my recent public work has been vaccination oriented. But NPIs as we need them have to be correct, and resources aren't unlimited, and the optimization requires a correct understanding.

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        1. Cali Dreaming NaphiSoc ‏ @NaphiSoc 20 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @Merz and

          we need the mitigation of a vax that actually works

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        2. Skillet McTavish‏ @SMcTavishESQ 20 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @Merz and

          You can build a Corsi-Rosenthal Box for 50$ and 30 minutes of your time. Nobody at CDC et al is stressing importance of aerosol mitigation.

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        3. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 21 Dec 2021
          Replying to @SMcTavishESQ @zeynep and

          CDC has been a rolling disaster. I think most of us agree on that point. I was hopeful when Walensky came in but that hope was misplaced.

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